[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Josy

Why didn't Renee like Chloe then? she liked her in the beginning then turned on her. I don't believe her for a minute when she denies it has something to do with Bear, there not one other single reason for it..

Well i think a lot of us liked her to begin with and then realised she was just gonna be a sex toy, that turned a lot of people off her, and she's a filthy pig.
Renee stated she left her dirty knickers everywhere, dirty cow.

[kirklancaster]

There is NO doubt that Renee has acted partly through spite against Bear for spurning her, and through jealousy of Chloe - the 'younger' woman - who actually 'won' Bear's affections, BUT, once again, her actions, as bad as they are, are REACTIONS.

In other words, there ARE some genuine reasons - NOT excuses, but reasons - as to why she has partly acted in such a way.

With Bear and Bloor, there are NO such reasons with which to mitigate their behaviour.

They have deliberately CHOSEN to ACT in the abhorrent manner in which they have. Unlike Renee - or Aubrey with 'Spitgate' - THEIR appalling conduct has NOT been any REACTION to any given stimuli, it is deliberate ACTION.

And whilst Renee may well have had personal 'motives' for her attitude to Bear AND Chloe, that does not invalidate OR lessen the other PRIMARY reason for disliking them - namely, that they are a pair of dragged up, lowlife, ignorant, antisocial, and infantile pair of scumbags.

[Liam-]

She doesn't like Chloe because Chloe is a superficial, unintelligent, deluded, obnoxious, victim playing asshole.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Because he's a nasty person and she wants nothing to do with?

That can't be the reason cause Bear has been consistently the same since day one and she was all over him like a rash...in fact I would say that was exactly why she was attracted to him.....so when Ricky accuses Chloe of being attracted to nastiness then he is saying the same thing to Renee.

[Vanessa]

Don't blame Rene. I'd be all over Bear like a rash

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Josy

Why didn't Renee like Chloe then? she liked her in the beginning then turned on her. I don't believe her for a minute when she denies it has something to do with Bear, there not one other single reason for it..

Pure jealousy Josy that she turned on her and then got really spiteful.

That to me is blatantly obvious no matter what she says now.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Pure jealousy Josy that she turned on her and then got really spiteful.

That to me is blatantly obvious no matter what she says now.

[Kazanne]

I think she did like him at first,but I don't think that is the whole reason she disliked Chloe,Renee didn't like how Chloe ran off to Bear tittle tattling ,like she did with the prostitute comment which she got totally wrong,Chloe was causing rows over nothing and c'mon the reason Bear didn't want to go there with Renee is that he couldn't handle a full grown woman,he needed a dipstick that he could manipulate and control and laugh at and he got that in Chloe,Bear wasn't bothered about looks he just wanted some T&A,I have to say if I was a guy I would find Renee much more attractive facially than Chloe.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think she did like him at first,but I don't think that is the whole reason she disliked Chloe,Renee didn't like how Chloe ran off to Bear tittle tattling ,like she did with the prostitute comment which she got totally wrong,Chloe was causing rows over nothing and c'mon the reason Bear didn't want to go there with Renee is that he couldn't handle a full grown woman,he needed a dipstick that he could manipulate and control and laugh at and he got that in Chloe,Bear wasn't bothered about looks he just wanted some T&A,I have to say if I was a guy I would find Renee much more attractive facially than Chloe.

That's my take on things, too, Kaz.

[Vicky.]

All over Bear, IMO. Timing is too...right...for it to be anything else

[Robodog]

Exactly.

If you listen to her argument yesterday, it doesn't make sense. She was full of anger towards Chloe/Bear, and she kept saying about how hurt she is with them, how betrayed she was feeling etc, but she never actually explained why nor what it is they had done!

Whenever someone tried to ask her why, she became more upset and said 'i don't want to talk about it'.

You can trace it back to 2 events

1. The night she asked Bear to come to bed with her and he refused.
2. The morning after Chloe kissed Bear, Renee told Chloe in the kitchen: 'he has burnt his bridges with me now'. What else could she possibly mean by that apart from some kind of jealousy?

However, i don't think it's 100% down to Renee fancying Bear. I think it's just as much, if not more about Renee's overall control issues and how that plays out in the dynamic of the house. I think she sees Bear as the powerful, central figure alpha type and she wanted to form an alliance with him on that front. She wanted to be 'in there with the big guy', and no doubt exert her influence on him.

I don't even think this her a game plan for the show as such, but i think this is something she would actually do in real life; like to be in there with the big guy.

The other major factor in this, is when you listen closely to Renee's argument yesterday, right up to the moment when the whole house came in to hug her, she had stopped talking about Bear and Chloe and she was crying about how hurt it was to be betrayed. I thought then that this was not actually really about Bear/Chloe, there must be something else in her past that had hurt her around the subject of betrayal. So she ended up using Bear/Chloe situation as a 'hook to hang her hurt on'.

They were the target, but deep down it was actually about past issues coming up in her emotional self in the house and those emotions/anger/upsets needing an outlet.

[caprimint]

She can't even think up a good valid reason herself. She knows that's why it is and it's also why she continues to get so mad over them accusing her of it.

[Vanessa]

Now Chloe is out of the way I think she may try her luck again

[Serg]

Renee has boyfriend outside.

[FwenchPussyCat]

As much as I like Renee I do think she is jealous of Chloe, on one of the later seasons of Mobwives she introduces a girl called Natalie Guercio and she turned very nasty with her straight away. This girl was young and beautiful.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by iRyan

I've mostly liked Renee but I found her reaction to Chloe to be over the top and unprovoked.

I agree.

However Chloe was uncomfortable to watch so god knows what she would've been like to live with.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

This is what people are not thinking about.If we had a week of just the bores it would be dire.

But Marnie and Lewis are the bores.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by FwenchPussyCat

As much as I like Renee I do think she is jealous of Chloe, on one of the later seasons of Mobwives she introduces a girl called Natalie Guercio and she turned very nasty with her straight away. This girl was young and beautiful.

But Chloe is not beautiful