[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

You are spot on here, Vanessa, and that sums it up really- good or bad, enjoy it or not, it can't be denied that everyone is talking about him and, when it comes down to it, it is controversy that sells.

Love him or hate him at least he's doing f something in there. Take out Bear, Rene and a few others and the rest is just coasting along. No one can deny he's the one who has had the most impact in this series. Everyone is talking about him.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Love him or hate him at least he's doing f something in there. Take out Bear, Rene and a few others and the rest is just coasting along. No one can deny he's the one who has had the most impact in this series. Everyone is talking about him.

Ahh, sorry. This is simply no absolute. Without this horrible bastard, at least ONE of the others may rise to prominence.

Shirley McLaine became a Mega Star in the 1954 production of 'Pyjama Game' when she stepped out of the shadows as an understudy when 'STAR' Carol Haney broke her ankle. WTF knows who Carol Haney is now? But they ALL know Shirley McLaine.

Anthony Hopkins stepped out of the shadows and became a Mega Star in the 1965 production of 'Dance of Death', when he understudied the incomparable Laurence Olivier who went down with appendicitis.

Your post PRESUMES that NONE of the other HM's have the charisma, personality, intellect, or ability to be a 'Star' celebrity, when the truth is - that much like 'understudies' - they are being 'FORCED' into the shadows because the producers have cast twat Bear as the 'Star'.

Also, as with the 'understudies', ONCE Bear the 'Star' is GONE, at least ONE of the other HM's WILL seize the opportunity to step up to the mark, and become the new 'Star'.

Do you REALLY and TRULY believe that from Day One, if these same HM's went into the CBB house and Bear was NEVER an HM, that we would NOW have certain members on here crying that the entire show is 'boring'? Or would we now all be enjoying a good series were there was a mixture of the HM's interacting, Game Playing, Back Stabbing, Show-mancing - ALL the ingredients atypical of CBB AND BB, but WITHOUT the overpowering, disruptive, vexatious and cruel bullying tactics of show-off Bear.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Love him or hate him at least he's doing f something in there. Take out Bear, Rene and a few others and the rest is just coasting along. No one can deny he's the one who has had the most impact in this series. Everyone is talking about him.

I think you might have misunderstand my point, and missed some of the previous discussion maybe....? You are right that everyone is talking about him, and he has had most impact, but to many people on this thread, that has been manipulated by the editing and is a negative, rather than positive thing.