[zakman440]

Just finished watching - some very interesting points raised about Big Brother's future and Channel 5 as a whole.

Channel 5 as a whole:

Spoiler:

- Frow is 'interested' in Brexit - he's looking for people who want to 'define their own destiny' to replace most of the benefits programmes.
- C5's share is growing across its portfolio
- 5STAR has started commissioning & already has returning shows that are skewing young and female
- Frow sees C5's digital channel portfolio as 'important for targeting demographics'
- Frow's a big believer in great content - 'if you produce great content, viewers will come'
- Frow on benefits programmes 'it was *the* talking point of the nation'
- Frow's sick of C5 being called a 'copycat' channel - 'hand on heart, I have never, never, never copied a programme from another channel'
- 10,000BC was 'a very expensive project'
- 'I will change people's perception of Channel 5... Look at what we do'
- Frow says no more benefits programmes, 'but that doesn't mean that it can't be explored in another form'
- Viacom 'helped persuade' him to commission more entertainment/comedy
- Rylan 'is a truly talented and amazing presenter', his chat show may come back 'in some form' but not stripped
- Viacom are keen for more content that can play across the Viacom portfolio
- 'If you don't get 'em, they'll simply move somewhere else'
- There will always be a place for acquisitions on Channel 5
- More lifestyle/docudramas/natural history coming up on Channel 5
- Channel 5 HQ moves to the Viacom building in Camden this October
- "A couple of old Channel 5 hits"may be revived + maybe a few countdown shows to celebrate Channel 5's 20th anniversary
- "Scripted drama" coming next year after the success of Suspects
- Neighbours is "on fire" at the moment, looking to do 'something big' with Neighbours next year

Big Brother:

- 'It's a very big player in the channel'
- BB was strategically placed at 9 this year to avoid the Euros/Olympics (it held up quite well)
- Civilian BB will play at 10PM/maybe 11PM in the future, Celeb BB may stay at 9PM
- Frow wants fresh commissions 'to take the limelight off Big Brother'
- Off-the-cuff comment on Big Brother winners 'you don't always get it right'

("You stated last year that you were taking a 'big look' at Big Brother. With CBS announcing a digital edition of Big Brother US, what's next for the UK show?")

- Love Island gave them 'a bit of a jolt', head start on Big Brother '****ing made me angry'
- When he came to Channel 5 he said that he 'didn't want to be the person that kills Big Brother'
- It's rating well for C5
- "We owe it to the viewers really to be bold enough to say 'how can we evolve this into the future?'"
- He wants a 'big brave bold, blue sky editorial discussion' with Endemol to see how the show can be kept 'as a leader' (also saying that he 'doesn't want to be second'), possibly affecting the January series.

[T*]

Originally Posted by zakman440

- he wants a 'big brave bold, blue sky editorial discussion' with endemol to see how the show can be kept 'as a leader' (also saying that he 'doesn't want to be second'), possibly affecting the january series.

endemol please talk sense into c5

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Tom*

endemol please talk sense into c5

I think this Endemol vs. Channel 5 stuff is amusing. They are both as inept as each other.

Surely you can see that?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I think this Endemol vs. Channel 5 stuff is amusing. They are both as inept as each other.

Surely you can see that?

Well, during BB17 Endomol apparently had quite an angry meeting with C5 about the lack of live updates hence why we started with no Twitter updates whatsoever and then got them a couple of weeks into the series. They're apparently very aware that we're the only version without a constant live feed.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Well, during BB17 Endomol apparently had quite an angry meeting with C5 about the lack of live updates hence why we started with no Twitter updates whatsoever and then got them a couple of weeks into the series. They're apparently very aware that we're the only version without a constant live feed.

I just don't buy it to be honest. The production team are the ones who come up with these ridiculous "twists", these evictions without public votes, the naff tasks etc. I've no doubt Channel 5 exec's like Frow have no idea what they're doing - you only need look at him to see he's an idiot - but the production team and have time and time again shown themselves to be utterly inept.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by zakman440

When he came to Channel 5 he said that he 'didn't want to be the person that kills Big Brother'

Well, you're too late