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Originally Posted by Jack_

Well I agree with that but - and I know this'll go down like a lead balloon on here - Leona's series was actually pretty ****? Most of the series post 2008 are better than the ones that preceded it they took the show in an entirely new direction in Joe's year and it paid off massively - what does that tell you? It only faltered because Simon gambled on XF US and they've been desperate to repair the damage ever since, but all the chopping and changing has only made things worse

My point is that it goes way beyond the 'last few years'. We're talking since like 2009? That's a long time. It's an entertainment programme first and foremost, 'talent competition' second. If you genuinely want the latter then watch The Voice, and that falters because it lacks what XF has. I just don't understand why year in, year out people fall over themselves trying to be outraged at the predictable - and correct in terms of a TV production - decisions that are made, everyone should know the drill by now. It's better this way, The Voice proves why and so does the mess of last series. Just view it as the entertainment juggernaut it is and don't try to look for musical integrity on one of the biggest stains on that very thing, and you might enjoy it more

I don't think that would necessarily happen, often uptempo songs are slowed down and vice versa in a clear bending of the theme so it would probably end up being the same thing. It'd be a fun theme tbh

Well I think the fact that the show has run its course plays a large part in why people are bored of it now (as much as the kind of decisions that are made tbh), I don't remember Leona's series overly well but obviously only being the third series people were hooked on it and it was seen as better than it really was most likely more than if it were to air now, but the point I'm wanting to make here is that what is the real problem is how it's declined. It was inevitable after 13 years anyway but the quality of the show is terrible, it has become painfully obvious how set up and fake it all is and that's where the problem lies.

The Voice's main problem is the coaches imo and the format isn't the best either. Plus people are literally just burnt out on singing shows now. I enjoy entertainment, but I don't enjoy seeing the same thing happen year after year where genuinely talented people are eliminated at the expense of viewing value.

If up-tempo songs are slowed down though then people just moan about them dodging the theme and not being able to do anything different.