[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

As far back as I can remember, the crop of candidates up for president has always been the worst yet, and I am talking decades here. People gain comfort from familiarity, thats why Bill left with a 70% approval rating, having just lied to the American people

When Reagan got elected, everyone was saying that's it, nuclear devastation is here, but, he ended up changing the whole game for the better. Who predicted that prior to his election People don't even need to have good intentions or bad intentions, things have a life of their own, that is much bigger than one person or even one country.

The simple reality is that if they are not good, they will be out on their ear in 4 years, so it really doesn't matter, and its impossible to judge who would be better or worse

This whole; "Trump/Hilary will be a terrible President, Trump/Hilary will be a great President is ridiculous.

Clinton might lie her head off and be deceitful as hell but turn out to be THE best President the States have ever seen.

Trump could be the most misogynistic and promiscuous President there's ever been and have 'interns' running for their chastity, but HE could STILL turn out to be THE best President that the States have ever had.

Or either could be dreadful and be impeached within 2 years - NO ONE knows.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This whole; "Trump/Hilary will be a terrible President, Trump/Hilary will be a great President is ridiculous.

Have you ever voted in an election? Would seem a bit silly to vote when you don't even believe in your own ability to forcast it a little, maybe youre not thinking it through enough.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

Have you ever voted in an election? Would seem a bit silly to vote when you don't even believe in your own ability to forcast it a little, maybe youre not thinking it through enough.

I have probably voted in more elections than any other member of this forum, thank you.

Your phrases; 'ability to forecast' and 'thinking it through' are a little vague, but let us examine what you may mean by them, shall we:

By 'ability to forecast', do you mean, 'Making a calculated guess based upon....

a) Political track records of the Presidential Candidates?

Trump has none, and Clinton's is less than inspirational.

Or perhaps you mean;

b) The political statements and promises issuing forth from both Candidates mouths whilst on the Campaign trail?

Trump is a PROVEN liar and Clinton is a PROVEN liar.

Or perhaps you mean;

c) The 'Believability' and 'Credibility' factors?

Trump is a PROVEN liar and Clinton is a PROVEN liar.

Oh... I see, NOW all we are left with are our own personal prejudices. Who we LIKE as a PERSON and who we DON'T like as a person.

Get voting.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I have probably voted in more elections than any other member of this forum, thank you.

Your phrases; 'ability to forecast' and 'thinking it through' are a little vague, but let us examine what you may mean by them, shall we:

By 'ability to forecast', do you mean, 'Making a calculated guess based upon....

a) Political track records of the Presidential Candidates?

Trump has none, and Clinton's is less than inspirational.

Or perhaps you mean;

b) The political statements and promises issuing forth from both Candidates mouths whilst on the Campaign trail?

Trump is a PROVEN liar and Clinton is a PROVEN liar.

Or perhaps you mean;

c) The 'Believability' and 'Credibility' factors?

Trump is a PROVEN liar and Clinton is a PROVEN liar.

Oh... I see, NOW all we are left with are our own personal prejudices. Who we LIKE as a PERSON and who we DON'T like as a person.

Get voting.

So you think its completely irrational for anybody to forecast it themselves simply because you dont share the same ability, theres a world outside your forehead.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

So you think its completely irrational for anybody to forecast it themselves simply because you dont share the same ability, theres a world outside your forehead.

If you REALLY want to start with the personal insults - I'll be your Huckleberry.

[rk3388]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Or either could be dreadful and be impeached within 2 years - NO ONE knows.

I disagree. With Trump's disastrous policies he is no way going to be one of the best presidents. Cutting taxes for the 1% by over half what they're paying, prioritizing more oil development over renewable energy sources, Not taking in Syrian refugees (He should look at how many Canada has brought in and how it has been a non-issue thus far) etc. etc. I could literally go on.

his presidency would be disastrous and I KNOW that.

[bots]

Originally Posted by rk3388

I disagree. With Trump's disastrous policies he is no way going to be one of the best presidents. Cutting taxes for the 1% by over half what they're paying, prioritizing more oil development over renewable energy sources, Not taking in Syrian refugees (He should look at how many Canada has brought in and how it has been a non-issue thus far) etc. etc. I could literally go on.

his presidency would be disastrous and I KNOW that.

and your reasons for saying that are remarkably focussing on policy .... which is fantastic, and has 100% validity given your own political leanings. Others are perfectly entitled to disagree, but It's so nice to see real policies being referenced.