[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

People keep bringing up the candidates the status quo, but the truth is, the vast majority of Americans don't appear to agree on what the status quo actually is. That's why you hear a lot of talk about left/right wing media twisting and manipulating perception... the truth is, neither represents the status quo, both parties have become increasingly irrelevant, which is why they HAVE to rely on divisive political rhetoric to make the case for their relevance. Once they're voted back in, it's back to same ol' same ol'.

There is no single majority perception anymore.. America has become very mixed and many people are in denial of this fact... they keep trying to force their vision of what the US actually is, but it won't stick in people's mind because 1) It's not seated in fact and 2) Both visions are too restrictive to truly represent an increasingly mixed population and an all inclusive minority population.

I would argue there are some things Clinton specifically is not going along with the status quo on, and then there are some things that Trump is more inline with good ol' boy politics on. On other issues, it's flipped around. However, Trump is not anti-status quo candidate when looking at the entire picture... the brand he is trying to sale to the American public may disagree, but looking at the issues and positions, this does not appear to be the case.

Anyway, you have to look at the issues. Not whether their personality or not clicks with you. As a female US voter, Trump will never get my vote because not only is his business record highly suspect (something he could easily clear up by releasing tax returns), but his actual understanding of how foreign politics and economies actually work isn't even college level.

The last major issue I have is obviously his sexist commentary and his treating alleged sexual harassment victims as "not pretty enough" to be sexually harassed on the campaign trail... it just goes backwards in time with regards to everything that has been accomplished in the US.

Not to mention, his brand and way of carrying himself as a leading image of the US would be a massive catastrophe for US foreign policy.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Maru

People keep bringing up the candidates the status quo, but the truth is, the vast majority of Americans don't appear to agree on what the status quo actually is. That's why you hear a lot of talk about left/right wing media twisting and manipulating perception... the truth is, neither represents the status quo, both parties have become increasingly irrelevant, which is why they HAVE to rely on divisive political rhetoric to make the case for their relevance. Once they're voted back in, it's back to same ol' same ol'.

There is no single majority perception anymore.. America has become very mixed and many people are in denial of this fact... they keep trying to force their vision of what the US actually is, but it won't stick in people's mind because 1) It's not seated in fact and 2) Both visions are too restrictive to truly represent an increasingly mixed population and an all inclusive minority population.

I would argue there are some things Clinton specifically is not going along with the status quo on, and then there are some things that Trump is more inline with good ol' boy politics on. On other issues, it's flipped around. However, Trump is not anti-status quo candidate when looking at the entire picture... the brand he is trying to sale to the American public may disagree, but looking at the issues and positions, this does not appear to be the case.

Anyway, you have to look at the issues. Not whether their personality or not clicks with you. As a female US voter, Trump will never get my vote because not only is his business record highly suspect (something he could easily clear up by releasing tax returns), but his actual understanding of how foreign politics and economies actually work isn't even college level.

The last major issue I have is obviously his sexist commentary and his treating alleged sexual harassment victims as "not pretty enough" to be sexually harassed on the campaign trail... it just goes backwards in time with regards to everything that has been accomplished in the US.

Not to mention, his brand and way of carrying himself as a leading image of the US would be a massive catastrophe for US foreign policy.

evidence?

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

evidence?

Tbqf, both presidencies could be potentially damaging to our national security. They both will likely divide the nation further and this could weaken our standing abroad (and further empower terrorist ideological forces such as ISIS).

Trump is all impulse, no self-control which will have the worst result. What he has done to the atmosphere of this country in the past 1 1/2yr can't remotely compare to what he could do in 4yr as president. Whether you agree with his views or not, he has no limits when it comes to protecting his fragile ego. I wouldn't put it past him to start ghetto 3AM Twitter wars with other nations and their "departments"... ISIS and other groups that don't fall in line with his rhetoric will use this to their advantage to pull apart at the country. We've already seen a surge in countries/interest groups hiring trolls on the internet to write blogs/make commentary on the internet to increase the public's resentment towards our own government.

I figure it will happen one of two ways...

Either Trump will say or do something abroad that will get us in a world of trouble.

Or the disease will start from within, he will damage the public's trust and faith in democracy... which makes it ripe for our foreign enemies and other malicious groups to come in, fan this controversy and further divide the nation and cause chaos.

Granted, Hillary could do the same as well if she were to make some terrible decisions and then act in secrecy. She will lose the public trust and she already is disliked by much of the population. However, Hillary is at least self-aware enough to know when to shut her mouth and to handle these divisions in a sensitive manner. Sensitivity and self-awareness doesn't even seem to be in Donald Trump's vocabulary.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Maru

People keep bringing up the candidates the status quo, but the truth is, the vast majority of Americans don't appear to agree on what the status quo actually is. That's why you hear a lot of talk about left/right wing media twisting and manipulating perception... the truth is, neither represents the status quo, both parties have become increasingly irrelevant, which is why they HAVE to rely on divisive political rhetoric to make the case for their relevance. Once they're voted back in, it's back to same ol' same ol'.

There is no single majority perception anymore.. America has become very mixed and many people are in denial of this fact... they keep trying to force their vision of what the US actually is, but it won't stick in people's mind because 1) It's not seated in fact and 2) Both visions are too restrictive to truly represent an increasingly mixed population and an all inclusive minority population.

I would argue there are some things Clinton specifically is not going along with the status quo on, and then there are some things that Trump is more inline with good ol' boy politics on. On other issues, it's flipped around. However, Trump is not anti-status quo candidate when looking at the entire picture... the brand he is trying to sale to the American public may disagree, but looking at the issues and positions, this does not appear to be the case.

Anyway, you have to look at the issues. Not whether their personality or not clicks with you. As a female US voter, Trump will never get my vote because not only is his business record highly suspect (something he could easily clear up by releasing tax returns), but his actual understanding of how foreign politics and economies actually work isn't even college level.

The last major issue I have is obviously his sexist commentary and his treating alleged sexual harassment victims as "not pretty enough" to be sexually harassed on the campaign trail... it just goes backwards in time with regards to everything that has been accomplished in the US.

Not to mention, his brand and way of carrying himself as a leading image of the US would be a massive catastrophe for US foreign policy.

Brilliant post Maru

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Maru

People keep bringing up the candidates the status quo, but the truth is, the vast majority of Americans don't appear to agree on what the status quo actually is. That's why you hear a lot of talk about left/right wing media twisting and manipulating perception... the truth is, neither represents the status quo, both parties have become increasingly irrelevant, which is why they HAVE to rely on divisive political rhetoric to make the case for their relevance. Once they're voted back in, it's back to same ol' same ol'.

There is no single majority perception anymore.. America has become very mixed and many people are in denial of this fact... they keep trying to force their vision of what the US actually is, but it won't stick in people's mind because 1) It's not seated in fact and 2) Both visions are too restrictive to truly represent an increasingly mixed population and an all inclusive minority population.

I would argue there are some things Clinton specifically is not going along with the status quo on, and then there are some things that Trump is more inline with good ol' boy politics on. On other issues, it's flipped around. However, Trump is not anti-status quo candidate when looking at the entire picture... the brand he is trying to sale to the American public may disagree, but looking at the issues and positions, this does not appear to be the case.

Anyway, you have to look at the issues. Not whether their personality or not clicks with you. As a female US voter, Trump will never get my vote because not only is his business record highly suspect (something he could easily clear up by releasing tax returns), but his actual understanding of how foreign politics and economies actually work isn't even college level.

The last major issue I have is obviously his sexist commentary and his treating alleged sexual harassment victims as "not pretty enough" to be sexually harassed on the campaign trail... it just goes backwards in time with regards to everything that has been accomplished in the US.

Not to mention, his brand and way of carrying himself as a leading image of the US would be a massive catastrophe for US foreign policy.