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Another cool little featurette HBO have uploaded, "Reality of AI" (with more new footage so if you're not into trailers etc don't watch ).

I really find thinking about this stuff fascinating.

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One of the things I'm loving about Westworld most is the video game comparison, both with how interactions with certain Hosts activate particular storylines and also the analogy between what some of the guests do to the Hosts and what people do when playing games like GTA without caring because none of it's real. I think taking a futuristic concept and grounding it in ideas that are recognisable and very current today (albeit in different form) was a really good idea.
...when you think as well of the original movie and no thought back in the day then could have been of the possibility of computer interactive characters and stories becoming a reality...(there probably hadn't even been colour in movies for that long....)...


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...also the reference to Teddy having died thousands of times...yep, he's Kenny.....
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...when you think as well of the original movie and no thought back in the day then could have been of the possibility of computer interactive characters and stories becoming a reality...(there probably hadn't even been colour in movies for that long....)...


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...also the reference to Teddy having died thousands of times...yep, he's Kenny.....
Oh definitely, the movie was way ahead of it's time

Poor Teddy. I admit I found it hilarious (in a cruel way) when Dr Ford flat out told him they never even bothered to give him a backstory
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Oh definitely, the movie was way ahead of it's time

Poor Teddy. I admit I found it hilarious (in a cruel way) when Dr Ford flat out told him they never even bothered to give him a backstory
.....I did think about your Kenny comment with those scenes and smiled probably more than I would have....it's fascinating as well really...(not so much the original movie but with the series..)...how they're exploring (some) of the makers actually seeing their projects as human as well.../the guy who was reluctant to make the cut with the knife and kind of winced a bit when Anthony Hopkins did....
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.....I did think about your Kenny comment with those scenes and smiled probably more than I would have....it's fascinating as well really...(not so much the original movie but with the series..)...how they're exploring (some) of the makers actually seeing their projects as human as well.../the guy who was reluctant to make the cut with the knife and kind of winced a bit when Anthony Hopkins did....
Oh I agree, I loved that scene. It would be a bit one-dimensional if all of the Westworld staff were apathetic towards the feelings of the Hosts so I really like that they're having us see that some of them do have reservations about the way they're treated (the same goes for the guests with people like William providing a different representation).

I also find Dr Ford's conflicting attitude towards the Hosts interesting. He has friendly chats over drinks with that old retired cowboy Host and talks about them in a way that suggests respect (and there was that line in the last ep when he alluded to the Hosts forgetting everything as being a mercy for them) but then we had the scene where he didn't feel the undressed Host needed to be covered and cut his face to prove he couldn't feel it. I read a theory that he feels more sympathy for them than he lets on and overcompensates for it (as with the scene with the face cut), I could see that tbh. But yeah, I love how morally ambiguous they've made him.

Also I'm fully a believer of the "Bernard is a Host" theory now (I'm in full conspiracy theory mode, so yes I think his "wife" he was having a video chat with is just part of his storyline)

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Ohhhh I like that Bernard theory

(I've caught up now, I'm hooked)


It's really bringing back that Lost vibe for me with how layered and mysterious it all is and how the internet is full of theories

Also episode 3 scored the highest ratings of the season so far
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Oh I agree, I loved that scene. It would be a bit one-dimensional if all of the Westworld staff were apathetic towards the feelings of the Hosts so I really like that they're having us see that some of them do have reservations about the way they're treated (the same goes for the guests with people like William providing a different representation).

I also find Dr Ford's conflicting attitude towards the Hosts interesting. He has friendly chats over drinks with that old retired cowboy Host and talks about them in a way that suggests respect (and there was that line in the last ep when he alluded to the Hosts forgetting everything as being a mercy for them) but then we had the scene where he didn't feel the undressed Host needed to be covered and cut his face to prove he couldn't feel it. I read a theory that he feels more sympathy for them than he lets on and overcompensates for it (as with the scene with the face cut), I could see that tbh. But yeah, I love how morally ambiguous they've made him.

Also I'm fully a believer of the "Bernard is a Host" theory now (I'm in full conspiracy theory mode, so yes I think his "wife" he was having a video chat with is just part of his storyline)


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..I always overthink these things in my theories...(which is why I'm usually completely wrong.....)...but I think that there are very few who aren't hosts/maybe none at all....and the AI is so advanced that it has created and is repairing/reprogramming etc what were the makers...but who are long dead over time...because if it didn't create new then it couldn't sustain either so it has self protected by duplicating...
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..I always overthink these things in my theories...(which is why I'm usually completely wrong.....)...but I think that there are very few who aren't hosts/maybe none at all....and the AI is so advanced that it has created and is repairing/reprogramming etc what were the makers...but who are long dead over time...because if it didn't create new then it couldn't sustain either so it has self protected by duplicating...
I've actually read similar theories elsewhere about everyone being Hosts. And they did reference "management" having an agenda in the first episode so I could definitely see that with all the staff actually being robots and part of an elaborate experiment ran by the higher-ups
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