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Shaun · 20-10-2016, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, the Johnny Depp Chocolate Factory movie was far better than the Gene Wilder one.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Ammi · 20-10-2016, 04:16 AM

...wasn't I Am Legend a remake of The Omega Man..?..I would say though, King Kong was a better remake for me, I liked the connection with Naomi Watts...also Cape Fear and Bram Stoker's Dracula...

user104658 · 20-10-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...wasn't I Am Legend a remake of The Omega Man..?

There are three; The Last Man on Earth (1964), The Omega Man (1971), I Am Legend (2007)

(All based on the 1950's book "I Am Legend")

The Omega Man is a really strange film (I mean, it has vampire zombies that wear sunglasses) but I would say generally a better film than I Am Legend. I thought the first half of I Am Legend was excellent (Will Smith essentially alone in the city) but it didn't know where to go and flopped towards the end (after the introduction of the "intelligent" enemy and the other human characters, imo). Also the CGI is awful.

user104658 · 20-10-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, the Johnny Depp Chocolate Factory movie was far better than the Gene Wilder one.

Although, obviously both films had very different goals with style etc, Depp's is more in keeping with the book imo.

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Originally Posted by Shaun

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Yeah I agree. The visual style of the Burton version is, in my opinion, better but the most important part of the story is misunderstood. Depp's Wonka is clearly mentally unstable / insane. The message seems to be that his view of the world is warped or distorted in his madness. Which misses the point entirely... a point that the first film completely nails. Wonka is NOT insane, in fact he is completely sane. He sees the world for exactly what it is and it makes him angry. He is an angry, cynical man who is sick of the world and of people... and he masks it with a smile and passive-aggressive humour. Which is why the first film manages to actually be darker than the remake, without the visual style being dark at all.

James · 20-10-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah I agree. The visual style of the Burton version is, in my opinion, better but the most important part of the story is misunderstood. Depp's Wonka is clearly mentally unstable / insane. The message seems to be that his view of the world is warped or distorted in his madness. Which misses the point entirely... a point that the first film completely nails. Wonka is NOT insane, in fact he is completely sane. He sees the world for exactly what it is and it makes him angry. He is an angry, cynical man who is sick of the world and of people... and he masks it with a smile and passive-aggressive humour. Which is why the first film manages to actually be darker than the remake, without the visual style being dark at all.

I thought the original film was quite good but I didn't think it was as good as the book. Probably because the book was one of my favourites when I was young, and the film could never live up to that expectation and be how I imagined it.

I haven't really watched the remake properly. I've seen bits of it.

Mokka · 20-10-2016, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by James

I thought the original film was quite good but I didn't think it was as good as the book. Probably because the book was one of my favourites when I was young, and the film could never live up to that expectation and be how I imagined it.

I haven't really watched the remake properly. I've seen bits of it.

I remember reading the book after having seen the gene wilder movie as a kid... and thinking they were not the same story

Having said that, and while I really actually love both versions of the movie... the original wins for me.

Mokka · 20-10-2016, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah I agree. The visual style of the Burton version is, in my opinion, better but the most important part of the story is misunderstood. Depp's Wonka is clearly mentally unstable / insane. The message seems to be that his view of the world is warped or distorted in his madness. Which misses the point entirely... a point that the first film completely nails. Wonka is NOT insane, in fact he is completely sane. He sees the world for exactly what it is and it makes him angry. He is an angry, cynical man who is sick of the world and of people... and he masks it with a smile and passive-aggressive humour. Which is why the first film manages to actually be darker than the remake, without the visual style being dark at all.