[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ah British humour, when in doubt, mock.

I don't think that ANY of us are in ANY doubt that a lot of these 'children' ARE in fact NOT children, so what doubt are you referring to?

Incidentally, MOST jokes and humour are based on misfortune or tragic occurrences.

No one is mocking any genuine refugees - only the ludicrousness of a totally incredible, unbelievable, situation where some 'WET' bleedin' heart UK 'official bodies' are EXPECTING us to SWALLOW the B.S. that some of these '30 somethings' are 'children'.

If they are children they must have been birthed at 17 years of age.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't think that ANY of us are in ANY doubt that a lot of these 'children' ARE in fact NOT children, so what doubt are you referring to?

Incidentally, MOST jokes and humour are based on misfortune or tragic occurrences.

No one is mocking any genuine refugees - only the ludicrousness of a totally incredible, unbelievable, situation where some 'WET' bleedin' heart UK 'official bodies' are EXPECTING us to SWALLOW the B.S. that some of these '30 somethings' are 'children'.

If they are children they must have been birthed at 17 years of age.

There you go my point is proven here, so well done the Express the Mail and the Times... The seed of doubt has mutated and any empathy for the plight of these refugee children is subverted.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There you go my point is proven here, so well done the Express the Mail and the Times... The seed of doubt has mutated and any empathy for the plight of these refugee children is subverted.

It is ludicrous to always claim 'orchestrated media propaganda' whenever their is reportage which does not suit one's own ideologies - totally, wholly ridiculous.

The very real, wholly irrefutable facts ARE, that not only are SOME devious ADULT, MALE, 'would-be' illegal immigrants, posing as children to gain access into the UK, but also that SOME wet, bleeding heart idiotic UK do-gooders are DECEITFULLY complicit in the fraud too.

I would also advise you that THERE IS NOT ONE TRUE REFUGEE IN THOSE CAMPS so your post is misleading on more than just the Media propaganda claim.

As Peter Hitchens so correctly pointed out, EVEN a GENUINE refugee ceases to be that once he has reached a safe country which affords sanctuary.

If that EX-refugee then decides to spurn that offer of sanctuary and travel through other safe countries to reach a specific destination, he then becomes a plain old simple MIGRANT.

Those residents of the Calais camps were there SOLELY because they ELECTED to be there.

Of course, very few of them are not, were not, and have NEVER been genuine refugees anyway, just plain old simple would be illegal immigrants into the UK for ECONOMIC reasons.

And of course, very few of them are not, were not, and have NEVER been WOMEN and CHILDREN - the majority of them since 1999 being fit, able-bodied MALES in the 17 to 38 year old age bracket.

They CHOSE to avoid APPLYING FOR ASYLUM in any of the many Official Processing Centres in EVERY safe country which most of them passed through to get to Calais, because they KNEW that they were NOT genuine refugees and that applying and being refused Asylum or Refugee status would mean the OFFICIAL end of their UK residential ambitions.

By the way, this post of mine is not about any genuine unaccompanied children, of whom I have already stated SHOULD be rescued by us from those camps and given a new home within the UK.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It is ludicrous to always claim 'orchestrated media propaganda' whenever their is reportage which does not suit one's own ideologies - totally, wholly ridiculous.

The very real, wholly irrefutable facts ARE, that not only are SOME devious ADULT, MALE, 'would-be' illegal immigrants, posing as children to gain access into the UK, but also that SOME wet, bleeding heart idiotic UK do-gooders are DECEITFULLY complicit in the fraud too.

I would also advise you that THERE IS NOT ONE TRUE REFUGEE IN THOSE CAMPS so your post is misleading on more than just the Media propaganda claim.

As Peter Hitchens so correctly pointed out, EVEN a GENUINE refugee ceases to be that once he has reached a safe country which affords sanctuary.

If that EX-refugee then decides to spurn that offer of sanctuary and travel through other safe countries to reach a specific destination, he then becomes a plain old simple MIGRANT.

Those residents of the Calais camps were there SOLELY because they ELECTED to be there.

Of course, very few of them are not, were not, and have NEVER been genuine refugees anyway, just plain old simple would be illegal immigrants into the UK for ECONOMIC reasons.

And of course, very few of them are not, were not, and have NEVER been WOMEN and CHILDREN - the majority of them since 1999 being fit, able-bodied MALES in the 17 to 38 year old age bracket.

They CHOSE to avoid APPLYING FOR ASYLUM in any of the many Official Processing Centres in EVERY safe country which most of them passed through to get to Calais, because they KNEW that they were NOT genuine refugees and that applying and being refused Asylum or Refugee status would mean the OFFICIAL end of their UK residential ambitions.

By the way, this post of mine is not about any genuine unaccompanied children, of whom I have already stated SHOULD be rescued by us from those camps and given a new home within the UK.

As the subject of the post you quoted is indeed child refugees it's refreshing to see you in total agreement here.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As the subject of the post you quoted is indeed child refugees it's refreshing to see you in total agreement here.

Thank you, but it was necessary to point out the immense - but seemingly continually overlooked - difference, between the words; 'Refugee' and 'Illegal Economic Immigrant', and 'Genuine Child' and 'Skanking Adult Pretend Child'.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Thank you, but it was necessary to point out the immense - but seemingly continually overlooked - difference, between the words; 'Refugee' and 'Illegal Economic Immigrant', and 'Genuine Child' and 'Skanking Adult Pretend Child'.

You have no proof of either accusation, only skewed news reports.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You have no proof of either accusation, only skewed news reports.

That's untrue I've heard a few radio interviews now where the agencies involved have been asked directly about the ages of the "children" brought over, where the question has been dodged and finally answered with 14 to 18 bracket, yet we are still told there are kids as young as 8 in the camp but seemlngly its okay to overlook an 8 year old so an 18 year old can get on the bus

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You have no proof of either accusation, only skewed news reports.

There is no debate without objectivity, rationality, and a degree of impartiality. Bye.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There you go my point is proven here, so well done the Express the Mail and the Times... The seed of doubt has mutated and any empathy for the plight of these refugee children is subverted.

There are NO refugees there

How hard is this to understand?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There are NO refugees there

How hard is this to understand?

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