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With the stats you posted though, Germany really has put us to shame over all of this. 800k...and we take in a thousand or so :S
That's because Germany has a big problem with declining population so Merkel very irresponsibly opened the gates and said everyone all pile in with absolutely no regard for the surrounding countries who don't have Germany's population issues.She flooded Europe andprovoked a response from the countries around who had to put up massive fences and caused chaos.

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So you want them to swim back to Syria and wait with the 5 million others?
In all the coverage of this farce I have not seen any Syrian migrants just Asian ones
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French Officials say the camp has been cleared, aid agencies beg to differ and say there are still children in the camp and waiting to be registered
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Why should they be prioritized over the others who stayed put? Someone fit enough to swim across an ocean, if thats what happened, should not be priority over, for example, a four year old child.

Sorry maybe its true that I am getting desensitized, and maybe its wrong to disregard some for the sake of others...but we cannot take in everyone and I would rather take in those most in need. I find it hard to believe that a large amount of those camped out at the border are Syrian basically because if they were, they would be happy anywhere than is safe, rather than trying to get to one specific country
No that's not what happened, that would be impossible.

They are here, maybe they shouldn't have any priority they wouldn't have it now if the French hadn't forced the arm of our govt to act, not many appear to be coming from the 5 million currently seeking asylum from Syria though do they?
The question of why they want to be here has been answered countless times, family connections, good wages, healthcare, and the fact they speak our language.
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In all the coverage of this farce I have not seen any Syrian migrants just Asian ones
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French Officials say the camp has been cleared, aid agencies beg to differ and say there are still children in the camp and waiting to be registered
Really I am surprised, and what do our officials say about 8000 people just being spirited away? Not much I bet.
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Its Good so many went in Buses
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Well done GREAT Torrington!

Great Torrington (Devon, UK)

The north Devon town of Torrington is called ‘Great’ because of its role in the English Civil War. And it is showing a very different type of reaction to refugee resettlement from the one seen in Eltham.

Great Torrington will now be the temporary home of 70 unaccompanied refugee children from the ‘Calais Jungle‘. They will stay at the country retreat of Beam House. The local authority agreed that this was the most suitable location to house the refugees, with all costs paid by the Home Office. The 70 new arrivals will be among the first contingent to arrive in the UK as a result of the ‘Alf Dubs Amendment‘. The Immigration Act amendment, proposed by Lord Dubs (who as a child was brought to Britain via the Kindertransport scheme) will mean that Britain will accept unaccompanied child refugees even if they have no ties to the UK.

The Daily Telegraph is already stirring up trouble, emphasising only negative comments from a handful of locals. But most locals are not only uncritical. They are actually welcoming the refugees. Indeed, most are proud that their town is one of the first in Britain to offer such accommodation.

The Plough Arts Centre – which is the cultural hub of the town – has offered free film showings to these displaced youngsters. And Great Torrington Mayor Margaret Brown has given her full support to the refugee initiative, saying:

Since the crisis started to evolve, locals have been contacting us asking for a way to help, so we are ready.
Local MP Geoffrey Cox added:

I strongly believe that this country must respond compassionately to the plight of children caught up in the dangerous situation that has been allowed to develop in Calais.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/10/26/f...-like-opinion/
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Well done GREAT Torrington!

Great Torrington (Devon, UK)

The north Devon town of Torrington is called ‘Great’ because of its role in the English Civil War. And it is showing a very different type of reaction to refugee resettlement from the one seen in Eltham.

Great Torrington will now be the temporary home of 70 unaccompanied refugee children from the ‘Calais Jungle‘. They will stay at the country retreat of Beam House. The local authority agreed that this was the most suitable location to house the refugees, with all costs paid by the Home Office. The 70 new arrivals will be among the first contingent to arrive in the UK as a result of the ‘Alf Dubs Amendment‘. The Immigration Act amendment, proposed by Lord Dubs (who as a child was brought to Britain via the Kindertransport scheme) will mean that Britain will accept unaccompanied child refugees even if they have no ties to the UK.

The Daily Telegraph is already stirring up trouble, emphasising only negative comments from a handful of locals. But most locals are not only uncritical. They are actually welcoming the refugees. Indeed, most are proud that their town is one of the first in Britain to offer such accommodation.

The Plough Arts Centre – which is the cultural hub of the town – has offered free film showings to these displaced youngsters. And Great Torrington Mayor Margaret Brown has given her full support to the refugee initiative, saying:

Since the crisis started to evolve, locals have been contacting us asking for a way to help, so we are ready.
Local MP Geoffrey Cox added:

I strongly believe that this country must respond compassionately to the plight of children caught up in the dangerous situation that has been allowed to develop in Calais.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/10/26/f...-like-opinion/

THis is the actual title of that "article"

While the far-right peddles hate, one Devon town reminds us what compassion looks like





Some tin pot blog operation with a total agenda

"The team at The Canary believe a free, fair and fearless media is the bedrock of a functioning democracy"


from that "article"


the far-right peddles hate

the right-wing press and its ideological bedfellows have been at the forefront of a campaign against accepting refugees.

Like in Britain, the right-wing press in Australia has drummed up hatred of refugees

The Daily Telegraph is already stirring up trouble, emphasising only negative comments from a handful of locals.

The UN has slammed some British newspapers for “sustained and unrestrained anti-foreigner abuse” in recent years. And people have even been attacked for not speaking English.

Right-wing groups at home and abroad have sought to push hatred over compassion. But we are seeing more and more clear examples of exactly how such hatred can be defeated.



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THis is the actual title of that "article"

While the far-right peddles hate, one Devon town reminds us what compassion looks like





Some tin pot blog operation with a total agenda

"The team at The Canary believe a free, fair and fearless media is the bedrock of a functioning democracy"


from that "article"


the far-right peddles hate

the right-wing press and its ideological bedfellows have been at the forefront of a campaign against accepting refugees.

Like in Britain, the right-wing press in Australia has drummed up hatred of refugees

The Daily Telegraph is already stirring up trouble, emphasising only negative comments from a handful of locals.

The UN has slammed some British newspapers for “sustained and unrestrained anti-foreigner abuse” in recent years. And people have even been attacked for not speaking English.

Right-wing groups at home and abroad have sought to push hatred over compassion. But we are seeing more and more clear examples of exactly how such hatred can be defeated.



Yes, and what is wrong with that title, or any of the statements from this online news source?
Do you have a comment in relation to the content?
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Yes, and what is wrong with that title, or any of the statements from this online news source?
Do you have a comment in relation to the content?
yeah, this


Great news for Corbynistas... it’s the maddest Left-wing website in the world

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...the-world.html
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THis is the actual title of that "article"

While the far-right peddles hate, one Devon town reminds us what compassion looks like





Some tin pot blog operation with a total agenda

"The team at The Canary believe a free, fair and fearless media is the bedrock of a functioning democracy"


from that "article"


the far-right peddles hate

the right-wing press and its ideological bedfellows have been at the forefront of a campaign against accepting refugees.

Like in Britain, the right-wing press in Australia has drummed up hatred of refugees

The Daily Telegraph is already stirring up trouble, emphasising only negative comments from a handful of locals.

The UN has slammed some British newspapers for “sustained and unrestrained anti-foreigner abuse” in recent years. And people have even been attacked for not speaking English.

Right-wing groups at home and abroad have sought to push hatred over compassion. But we are seeing more and more clear examples of exactly how such hatred can be defeated.



laugh:: Is this an example of 'Selective Editing' or 'Tactical Editing'? Peeing meself.
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It's in the top 100 media publications ...above 'the Spectator' I might add and I see that quoted regularly here
It's mocked by the Telegraph eh? No surprise there then.

Anyhoo back on topic.
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No that's not what happened, that would be impossible.

They are here, maybe they shouldn't have any priority they wouldn't have it now if the French hadn't forced the arm of our govt to act, not many appear to be coming from the 5 million currently seeking asylum from Syria though do they?
The question of why they want to be here has been answered countless times, family connections, good wages, healthcare, and the fact they speak our language.
I totally understand this. However it just seems wrong to be letting in people like this when there are people genuinely scared for their lives and in actual danger.
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I totally understand this. However it just seems wrong to be letting in people like this when there are people genuinely scared for their lives and in actual danger.
I don't disagree with you there, that's not to say I agree with sending people back to a warzone, it's a catch 22 situation
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and the minute one camp of economic migrants is destroyed another pops up...

France doing nothing it seems and happy for them to try (illegally) to come here) NO Syrians all are East African migrants and looks like all men and all in one age demographic. Ignore the inflammatory vid clip caption as this is an actual sky news clip.

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and the minute one camp of economic migrants is destroyed another pops up...

France doing nothing it seems and happy for them to try (illegally) to come here) NO Syrians all are East African migrants and looks like all men and all in one age demographic. Ignore the inflammatory vid clip caption as this is an actual sky news clip.

Anyone with half a brain cell could have predicted this being so.

Just as, if we HAD have taken ALL those Calais Camp 5,000, 6,000 or 10,000 (however many) NON refugees, that would have sent the message back to the other 34 million (or whatever) would-be Economic Migrants worldwide, that: "Hey - It works boy." and Calais would soon be one humongous camp.

They ALL are already clued up that:

a) Once in the UK illegally, it is IMPOSSIBLE to remove them.
b) If they are apprehended in the UK by Border Force, they CANNOT do ANYTHING to them if the illegals have no documents and passports.
c) For the VAST majority of apprehended illegals, they ARE released into HOTELS and GUEST HOUSES paid for by the UK TAXPAYER, pending 'ENQUIRIES' - from which 99% of them disappear without trace.

The government keeps NO RECORDS of just how many ILLEGALS are actual in the UK, and there could be as many as 10 MILLION for all we know.

NO, I AM NOT REFERRING TO GENUINE REFUGEES OR GENUINE CHILDREN HERE, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY DECIPHERING WHAT I AM WRITING.
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The charities say they had to house 100s of children who were left in the camp, French officials say they were people who came after the camp was cleared So they would be rehoused and could claim asylum...who to believe
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Anyone with half a brain cell could have predicted this being so.

Just as, if we HAD have taken ALL those Calais Camp 5,000, 6,000 or 10,000 (however many) NON refugees, that would have sent the message back to the other 34 million (or whatever) would-be Economic Migrants worldwide, that: "Hey - It works boy." and Calais would soon be one humongous camp.

They ALL are already clued up that:

a) Once in the UK illegally, it is IMPOSSIBLE to remove them.
b) If they are apprehended in the UK by Border Force, they CANNOT do ANYTHING to them if the illegals have no documents and passports.
c) For the VAST majority of apprehended illegals, they ARE released into HOTELS and GUEST HOUSES paid for by the UK TAXPAYER, pending 'ENQUIRIES' - from which 99% of them disappear without trace.


The government keeps NO RECORDS of just how many ILLEGALS are actual in the UK, and there could be as many as 10 MILLION for all we know.

NO, I AM NOT REFERRING TO GENUINE REFUGEES OR GENUINE CHILDREN HERE, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY DECIPHERING WHAT I AM WRITING.
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Rubbish, those aiding the kids were witnessing them being sent back to the then burning camp as processing had finished.
Horrific, humanitarian omnishambles!
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Rubbish, those aiding the kids were witnessing them being sent back to the then burning camp as processing had finished.
Horrific, humanitarian omnishambles!
Do you have a link?
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If any of the immigrants/refugees refuse to get on the transport because they want to stay in Callais then simply arrest them, offer them asylum if they qualify for it and if not then deport them, how hard can that be.
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