[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Actually Ammi it seems to me that he's advocating discrimination against women as long as it is for religious purposes. It's not personal, no point scoring here. I don't 'target' people. I don't have a 'gang'. I say what I think. Tolerence is one thing, but using it to support/comply with discrimination is another thing entirely.

Re Donald Trump, talk is talk, offensive as it might be I think that's something for his electorate/family/supporters/detractors to decide, whether he is a viable candidate for President/human being/husband/friend. If he touched anyone inappropriately that's between him, the victim and the law. It's difficult because there is no proof these things happened at this point. We can only speculate, until we actually know what happened, but I have seen plenty of condemnation from people on the forum.

..I believe that the only 'speculation' I have ever had, Jaxie..and yes a judgement of his character are from his own words that came from his own self admissions of how his 'celebrity and star' allow him to disregard females or what their wishes may be...

[Ammi]

...the law is black and white is really all there is for me to say...and so it has to be and legal/human rights have to be as well...but for most of us in our lives..?...our worlds are colour and we look at things from many perspectives and consider many things when we're giving thoughts about something...this was all for me that Withano was doing the thread right from the go, something I really admire him for.../while he never once so far as I can see denied discrimination had taken place with the airline...

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I believe that the only 'speculation' I have ever had, Jaxie..and yes a judgement of his character are from his own words that came from his own self admissions of how his 'celebrity and star' allow him to disregard females or what their wishes may be...

He bragged which certainly makes him an idiot. But was it talk or did he do it? I can't say. I certainly wouldn't vote for him but then I'm not sure I could vote for 'emails' either.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

He bragged which certainly makes him an idiot. But was it talk or did he do it? I can't say. I certainly wouldn't vote for him but then I'm not sure I could vote for 'emails' either.

...well I guess that bragging is something I personally would associate with something to be proud of../a code of behaviour to be proud of to the point of boasting about it..so it's down to our interpretation of those words when they're spoken in whether that person would feel it was something to brag about if it weren't truth...

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...well I guess that bragging is something I personally would associate with something to be proud of../a code of behaviour to be proud of to the point of boasting about it..so it's down to our interpretation of those words when they're spoken in whether that person would feel it was something to brag about if it weren't truth...

I have heard men brag before though and while it's unsavory it doesn't actually make a crime, what I'm getting at is that at the moment there is no proof he physically did anything inappropriate, it's speculation until then. I'm not a Trump supporter but he hasn't actually been proved guilty of anything but disrespectful talk. While this, IMO means he isn't President material, it's not exactly a crime. See I'm fair, I'm actually standing up for someone I think is a tool!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I have heard men brag before though and while it's unsavory it doesn't actually make a crime, what I'm getting at is that at the moment there is no proof he physically did anything inappropriate, it's speculation until then. I'm not a Trump supporter but he hasn't actually been proved guilty of anything but disrespectful talk. While this, IMO means he isn't President material, it's not exactly a crime. See I'm fair, I'm actually standing up for someone I think is a tool!

..I have no idea Jaxie what points you're trying to make with regards to my original mention of Trump and the context of it..I really am failing to see a connection atm so I'm just going to leave it here as I've exhausted the thread anyway with my personal thoughts...(for today anyway....)...

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I have no idea Jaxie what points you're trying to make with regards to my original mention of Trump and the context of it..I really am failing to see a connection atm so I'm just going to leave it here as I've exhausted the thread anyway with my personal thoughts...(for today anyway....)...

Oh I wasn't making a point, I thought we were just having a conversation of our thoughts on the issue. Have a good day!