[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

I mean, there is. Youre still refusing the information available to you.

Why do I need more information when religion does not validate gender nor race discrimination? Nothing I am told about their religion will validate discrimination. It doesn't matter what their belief is, be it negative or positive it's still discrimination against a woman.

I might believe it's going to rain tomorrow, that doesn't mean I should refuse to sit next to a black guy on a bus.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Why do I need more information when religion does not validate gender nor race discrimination? Nothing I am told about their religion will validate discrimination.

Precisely why i was saying the outrage on this thread is stupid, thanks for eloquetly proving my point.

There was no discrimination here (at least from the male monks' side) and researching this or reading through the thread would have told you this. It was quite the opposite to discrimination and we know this because of the buddhist teachings of sunyata.

I completely understand why you would be upset if you only take information from one side of the story, but ignoring the other half and still being outraged is childish.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Precisely why i was saying the outrage on this thread is stupid, thanks for eloquetly proving my point.

There was no discrimination here (at least from the male monks' side) and researching this or reading through the thread would have told you this. It was quite the opposite to discrimination and we know this because of the buddhist teachings of sunyata.

I completely understand why you would be upset if you only take information from one side of the story, but ignoring the other half and still being outraged is childish.

It doesn't matter what the monks intention was or was not, (for the last time) what they did by refusing to sit next to a woman is sexual discrimination. Calling people who don't share you opinions stupid is childish.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It doesn't matter what the monks intention was or was not, (for the last time) what they did by refusing to sit next to a woman is sexual discrimination. Calling people who don't share you opinions stupid is childish.

Firstly, Ive never called anybody here stupid. Ive labelled their outrage stupid because it is. I also think its stupid to call excessive respect for somebody 'discriminatory'. Theyre obviously two different things.

Your opinion sort if contradicts itself.. Like shouting at somebody for not holding the door open for you and then shouting at them for opening the next one for you because youre capable of doing it yourself!

But if thats the conclusion you came to after understanding their perspective, then fine. Youve done more than most in this thread by at least acknowledging two sides.. but i just dont think you can cry for gender equality when youre ignoring social and cultural equality.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Firstly, Ive never called anybody here stupid. Ive labelled their outrage stupid because it is. I also think its stupid to call excessive respect for somebody 'discriminatory'. Theyre obviously two different things.

Your opinion sort if contradicts itself.. Like shouting at somebody for not holding the door open for you and then shouting at them for opening the next one for you because youre capable of doing it yourself!

But if thats the conclusion you came to after understanding their perspective, then fine. Youve done more than most in this thread by at least acknowledging two sides.. but i just dont think you can cry for gender equality when youre ignoring social and cultural equality.

You can hardly flash the equality card either since you've argued for most the day in support of religious sexism.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

You can hardly flash the equality card either since you've argued for most the day in support of religious sexism.

Im all for equality and completely against sexism. If there was any "religious sexism" id be against it, its been well-established that there was not any sexism from these monks in this example though. Only incorrectly-perceived-sexism from several tibb members (and indeed, the angry woman in the misleadingly titled video), which im also against.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Im all for equality and completely against sexism. If there was any "religious sexism" id be against it, its been well-established that there was not any sexism from these monks in this example though. Only incorrectly-perceived-sexism from several tibb members (and indeed, the angry woman in the misleadingly titled video), which im also against.

How convenient that you deem it not to be sexism. Well established it is not. You aren't against sexism, sorry to disillusion you, your stance is compliant.