[Mokka]

I'll be honest... I would rather take an infraction if I posted something wrong rather than censorship without explanation. That being said... I don't want my infraction reasons to be riddled with sarcasm...just a direct reference to what it is for would be nice.

[Josy]

A lot of the time posts are removed for being part of an argument or quoting a post that is part of an argument, when something like that has happened in a thread most members taking part in the discussion will know why posts have been removed.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

A lot of the time posts are removed for being part of an argument or quoting a post that is part of an argument, when something like that has happened in a thread most members taking part in the discussion will know why posts have been removed.

Yes Josy
Keep it on the level

Nice to see

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I'll be honest... I would rather take an infraction if I posted something wrong rather than censorship without explanation. That being said... I don't want my infraction reasons to be riddled with sarcasm...just a direct reference to what it is for would be nice.

Having just looked through youre entire list of infractions I can say there is not one sarcastic comment there, just some detailed reasons letting you know exactly what a warning or infraction is for.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Josy

Having just looked through youre entire list of infractions I can say there is not one sarcastic comment there, just some detailed reasons letting you know exactly what a warning or infraction is for.

Well that is simply not the truth

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Well that is simply not the truth

No it is the truth Mokka, we've been here before if I remember correctly and I had to then posts some of youre deleted comments to prove that I was telling the truth, you had nothing to say afterwards if I recall.

The fact is you possibly see something sarcastic due to not agreeing with the reasons, as I mentioned before it's only some detailed reasons as to why the infraction or warning was given in the first place.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Josy

No it is the truth Mokka, we've been before if I remember correctly and I had to then posts some of youre deleted comments to prove that I was telling the truth, you had nothing to say afterwards if I recall.

The fact is you possibly see something sarcastic due to not agreeing with the reasons, as I mentioned before it's only some detailed reasons as to why the infraction or warning was given in the first place.

No Josy.
I wasn't posting on the site when you decided to release half of my deleted post....edited for your convenience... in the time you referenced. So it wasn't that I had nothing to say... it was that I wasn't here.
Also, I would prefer a mod who is not giving my infractions to read through and decide what is sarcasm and what is an actual reason for an infraction... because you are not very good at regulating yourself...let's be honest

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Are you feeling better Josy?

I'm not too bad thank you Cherie.

I will mention in the admin forum about a comment being posted when posts are removed.

Originally Posted by Mokka

No Josy.
I wasn't posting on the site when you decided to release half of my deleted post....edited for your convenience... in the time you referenced. So it wasn't that I had nothing to say... it was that I wasn't here.
Also, I would prefer a mod who is not giving my infractions to read through and decide what is sarcasm and what is an actual reason for an infraction... because you are not very good at regulating yourself...let's be honest

There's an infraction from plenty of mods on the list, you're hardly being targeted.

I'm as fair as I possibly can be on here, as are all the other mods but there's always certain members that can never accept when they are wrong and then try turning it around on the person infracting them.

I pasted the entire comment that day Mokka, the long one you posted that was clearly designed to cause trouble and unrest in a fun light hearted thread due to you being unhappy at one of your friends being banned, but this is way off topic.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Josy

I'm not too bad thank you Cherie.

I will mention in the admin forum about a comment being posted when posts are removed.



There's an infraction from plenty of mods on the list, you're hardly being targeted.

I'm as fair as I possibly can be on here, as are all the other mods but there's always certain members that can never accept when they are wrong and then try turning it around on the person infracting them.

I pasted the entire comment that day Mokka, the long one you posted that was clearly designed to cause trouble and unrest in a fun light hearted thread due to you being unhappy at one of your friends being banned, but this is way off topic.

More untruths ... you did not post the entire comment Josy. But that's fine. You have the power to spin the tale you want...and I have posts deleted and no proof to show the truth.... which is what the heart of this thread is. The people in control can censor and edit what they want... and the users of the site have no voice.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Josy

I'm not too bad thank you Cherie.

I will mention in the admin forum about a comment being posted when posts are removed.

.

That's great Josy thanks

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mokka

No Josy.
I wasn't posting on the site when you decided to release half of my deleted post....edited for your convenience... in the time you referenced. So it wasn't that I had nothing to say... it was that I wasn't here.
Also, I would prefer a mod who is not giving my infractions to read through and decide what is sarcasm and what is an actual reason for an infraction... because you are not very good at regulating yourself...let's be honest

I've just looked through your infractions, There's nothing wrong with them and I imagine any other mod would say the same.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've just looked through your infractions, There's nothing wrong with them and I imagine any other mod would say the same.

Private
Reason: Not sure why you have such a problem with this kid but if you could use the ignore function and stop with the baiting these warnings/infractions would not be needed
16-10-2016 02:56 PM by TiBB Staff 16-01-2017 02:56 PM

I have no problem with the person on question...and they appear to have a problem with me if they are reporting me a lot...but that still doesn't tell me what my infraction was for .... it is just a targeted statement insinuating I have some sort of malicious intent...which I don't

Private
Reason: Seriously uncalled for.
22-08-2016 03:39 PM by TiBB Staff 22-11-2016 03:39 PM

I actually have no idea what I said that was seriously uncalled for?? if I did I would never have posted it. How can I alter or change my actions for the better on the forum if I have no idea what rule I broke?

Profile Warning
Reason: No need for pathetic snipes at staff when using the report button, as told to you numerous times before other peoples infractions or the reason for them are nothing to do with you!earlier

Calling my comment pathetic sniping is baiting and insulting and sarcastic commenting. Just say the last part... no need to insult when giving an infraction

These are all examples from my first page of infractions...most recent.
Moderation implies impartiality and decorum....even in the face of nondecorum... this is some of what I am referring to... but I have seen others get far worse then me from the mods on here... and I my comments on here are not just about my account

[kirklancaster]

Do I address MY contentions that your statement is not true in ALL cases on here Josy? Or in a pm to you?

Not only have I had COMPLETELY INNOCUOUS posts removed without ANY genuine reason, I have had subsequent posts INSTANTLY removed which simply asked "Why has my innocuous post been removed when it has breached no rules at all?"

I recently had 6 posts removed - ONE AFTER THE OTHER - just as soon as I posted them:

The first was a civil rebuttal response to a Mod who had made accusations against me in a post.

When it was removed not a nano second after I had submitted it, I posted a benign post asking why it had been removed.

When THAT was instantly removed, I posted a STILL civil post asking why my posts were being removed and along with them my Right To Reply.

Later on that thread, the Mod involved asked another member for 'proof' to her allegation that he was not 'playing by the forum's own rules' or words to that effect" and in response to his invitation for 'proof', I posted simply that "My proof keeps being removed".

For which simple INNOCENT TRUTH I enjoyed a Warning:

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Default You have received a warning at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums
Dear kirklancaster,

You have received a warning at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums.

Reason:
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You have been here long enough to know that when posts are deleted you don't keep bringing them up especially just to cause more drama or derail a thread.


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Original Post:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?p=9033013
Quote:
My PROOF keeps being removed???

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums
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I have kept all relevant threads and can produce the above verbatim if need be, along with Warnings and Infractions for such totally innocent posts as:

posting CIVILLY to a member who I was debating with "I'm sorry, but you are simply not making any sense" - when SHE WAS NOT making any sense.

And again, for posting a good-natured humorous response to a member who had JUST posted the EXACT words I was about to post:

"You took the words right out of my mouth"

Did either of the above REALLY warrant punishment? Especially when so many far more grave and GENUINE breaches of forum rules are seen to be ALLOWED on a daily basis?

Did my posts above really deserve to be removed?

I would welcome a civil answer to be honest.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Do I address MY contentions that your statement is not true in ALL cases on here Josy? Or in a pm to you?

Not only have I had COMPLETELY INNOCUOUS posts removed without ANY genuine reason, I have had subsequent posts INSTANTLY removed which simply asked "Why has my innocuous post been removed when it has breached no rules at all?"

I recently had 6 posts removed - ONE AFTER THE OTHER - just as soon as I posted them:

The first was a civil rebuttal response to a Mod who had made accusations against me in a post.

When it was removed not a nano second after I had submitted it, I posted a benign post asking why it had been removed.

When THAT was instantly removed, I posted a STILL civil post asking why my posts were being removed and along with them my Right To Reply.

Later on that thread, the Mod involved asked another member for 'proof' to her allegation that he was not 'playing by the forum's own rules' or words to that effect" and in response to his invitation for 'proof', I posted simply that "My proof keeps being removed".

For which simple INNOCENT TRUTH I enjoyed a Warning:

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28-10-2016, 03:08 PM
TiBB Staff
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TiBB Staff

Join Date: Jul 2010
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Default You have received a warning at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums
Dear kirklancaster,

You have received a warning at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums.

Reason:
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You have been here long enough to know that when posts are deleted you don't keep bringing them up especially just to cause more drama or derail a thread.


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Original Post:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?p=9033013
Quote:
My PROOF keeps being removed???

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums
.................................................. .......

I have kept all relevant threads and can produce the above verbatim if need be, along with Warnings and Infractions for such totally innocent posts as:

posting CIVILLY to a member who I was debating with "I'm sorry, but you are simply not making any sense" - when SHE WAS NOT making any sense.

And again, for posting a good-natured humorous response to a member who had JUST posted the EXACT words I was about to post:

"You took the words right out of my mouth"

Did either of the above REALLY warrant punishment? Especially when so many far more grave and GENUINE breaches of forum rules are seen to be ALLOWED on a daily basis?

Did my posts above really deserve to be removed?

I would welcome a civil answer to be honest.

I think the warning speaks for itself.

We delete offending posts and any posts that reference those posts, you know that if you continue to post about deleted posts after they've been removed then you run the risk of being infracted because it basically continues any deleted drama and derails the thread.

You know what to do if you need clarification on a deleted post and posting about it in the thread itself isn't it.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think the warning speaks for itself.

We delete offending posts and any posts that reference those posts, you know that if you continue to post about deleted posts after they've been removed then you run the risk of being infracted because it basically continues any deleted drama and derails the thread.

You know what to do if you need clarification on a deleted post and posting about it in the thread itself isn't it.

I was addressing my questions directly to Josy, but perhaps as the Mod in question - you could tell me what to do? Should I pm you?

And the 'warning' most certainly DOES NOT speak for itself - for a start it is a private culmination of a very public and distasteful, unfair and unethical sequence of actions perpetrated by a MODERATOR against me.

You made an uninvited post about me on a thread on this forum which contained numerous wrongful allegations about me and I responded CIVILLY to rebut and refute those allegations.

My RESPONSE was removed.

When I posted to CIVILLY ask why you had removed it. That response was almost instantly removed also.

And so on and so forth - 6 times - until I had no choice but to give up trying to exercise my 'Right To Reply'.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Not only have I had COMPLETELY INNOCUOUS posts removed without ANY genuine reason, I have had subsequent posts INSTANTLY removed which simply asked "Why has my innocuous post been removed when it has breached no rules at all?"

I recently had 6 posts removed - ONE AFTER THE OTHER - just as soon as I posted them:

The first was a civil rebuttal response to a Mod who had made accusations against me in a post.

When it was removed not a nano second after I had submitted it, I posted a benign post asking why it had been removed.

When THAT was instantly removed, I posted a STILL civil post asking why my posts were being removed and along with them my Right To Reply.

Later on that thread, the Mod involved asked another member for 'proof' to her allegation that he was not 'playing by the forum's own rules' or words to that effect" and in response to his invitation for 'proof', I posted simply that "My proof keeps being removed".

I see a pattern here...

For the record posts asking why other posts have been removed will also be removed. If you haven't realised this by now...

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I'll be honest... I would rather take an infraction if I posted something wrong rather than censorship without explanation.

This


Are you feeling better Josy?