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Old 02-11-2016, 02:13 PM #1
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Do I address MY contentions that your statement is not true in ALL cases on here Josy? Or in a pm to you?

Not only have I had COMPLETELY INNOCUOUS posts removed without ANY genuine reason, I have had subsequent posts INSTANTLY removed which simply asked "Why has my innocuous post been removed when it has breached no rules at all?"

I recently had 6 posts removed - ONE AFTER THE OTHER - just as soon as I posted them:

The first was a civil rebuttal response to a Mod who had made accusations against me in a post.

When it was removed not a nano second after I had submitted it, I posted a benign post asking why it had been removed.

When THAT was instantly removed, I posted a STILL civil post asking why my posts were being removed and along with them my Right To Reply.

Later on that thread, the Mod involved asked another member for 'proof' to her allegation that he was not 'playing by the forum's own rules' or words to that effect" and in response to his invitation for 'proof', I posted simply that "My proof keeps being removed".

For which simple INNOCENT TRUTH I enjoyed a Warning:

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Dear kirklancaster,

You have received a warning at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums.

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You have been here long enough to know that when posts are deleted you don't keep bringing them up especially just to cause more drama or derail a thread.


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My PROOF keeps being removed???

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

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I have kept all relevant threads and can produce the above verbatim if need be, along with Warnings and Infractions for such totally innocent posts as:

posting CIVILLY to a member who I was debating with "I'm sorry, but you are simply not making any sense" - when SHE WAS NOT making any sense.

And again, for posting a good-natured humorous response to a member who had JUST posted the EXACT words I was about to post:

"You took the words right out of my mouth"

Did either of the above REALLY warrant punishment? Especially when so many far more grave and GENUINE breaches of forum rules are seen to be ALLOWED on a daily basis?

Did my posts above really deserve to be removed?

I would welcome a civil answer to be honest.
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Do I address MY contentions that your statement is not true in ALL cases on here Josy? Or in a pm to you?

Not only have I had COMPLETELY INNOCUOUS posts removed without ANY genuine reason, I have had subsequent posts INSTANTLY removed which simply asked "Why has my innocuous post been removed when it has breached no rules at all?"

I recently had 6 posts removed - ONE AFTER THE OTHER - just as soon as I posted them:

The first was a civil rebuttal response to a Mod who had made accusations against me in a post.

When it was removed not a nano second after I had submitted it, I posted a benign post asking why it had been removed.

When THAT was instantly removed, I posted a STILL civil post asking why my posts were being removed and along with them my Right To Reply.

Later on that thread, the Mod involved asked another member for 'proof' to her allegation that he was not 'playing by the forum's own rules' or words to that effect" and in response to his invitation for 'proof', I posted simply that "My proof keeps being removed".

For which simple INNOCENT TRUTH I enjoyed a Warning:

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Dear kirklancaster,

You have received a warning at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums.

Reason:
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You have been here long enough to know that when posts are deleted you don't keep bringing them up especially just to cause more drama or derail a thread.


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Original Post:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?p=9033013
Quote:
My PROOF keeps being removed???

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums
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I have kept all relevant threads and can produce the above verbatim if need be, along with Warnings and Infractions for such totally innocent posts as:

posting CIVILLY to a member who I was debating with "I'm sorry, but you are simply not making any sense" - when SHE WAS NOT making any sense.

And again, for posting a good-natured humorous response to a member who had JUST posted the EXACT words I was about to post:

"You took the words right out of my mouth"

Did either of the above REALLY warrant punishment? Especially when so many far more grave and GENUINE breaches of forum rules are seen to be ALLOWED on a daily basis?

Did my posts above really deserve to be removed?

I would welcome a civil answer to be honest.
I think the warning speaks for itself.

We delete offending posts and any posts that reference those posts, you know that if you continue to post about deleted posts after they've been removed then you run the risk of being infracted because it basically continues any deleted drama and derails the thread.

You know what to do if you need clarification on a deleted post and posting about it in the thread itself isn't it.
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Old 02-11-2016, 02:37 PM #3
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I think the warning speaks for itself.

We delete offending posts and any posts that reference those posts, you know that if you continue to post about deleted posts after they've been removed then you run the risk of being infracted because it basically continues any deleted drama and derails the thread.

You know what to do if you need clarification on a deleted post and posting about it in the thread itself isn't it.
I was addressing my questions directly to Josy, but perhaps as the Mod in question - you could tell me what to do? Should I pm you?

And the 'warning' most certainly DOES NOT speak for itself - for a start it is a private culmination of a very public and distasteful, unfair and unethical sequence of actions perpetrated by a MODERATOR against me.

You made an uninvited post about me on a thread on this forum which contained numerous wrongful allegations about me and I responded CIVILLY to rebut and refute those allegations.

My RESPONSE was removed.

When I posted to CIVILLY ask why you had removed it. That response was almost instantly removed also.

And so on and so forth - 6 times - until I had no choice but to give up trying to exercise my 'Right To Reply'.
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Perhaps as the Mod in question - you could tell me what to do? Should I pm you?
Yes, I'll be happy to clarify why posts are deleted. One of the reasons why we often don't often mention why posts are deleted in the thread itself is because it draws attention to the deleted drama and people will talk about that rather than the subject matter.
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Yes, I'll be happy to clarify why posts are deleted. One of the reasons why we often don't often mention why posts are deleted in the thread itself is because it draws attention to the deleted drama and people will talk about that rather than the subject matter.
To be fair to you, I think you responded to my post just as I was editing it and adding to it, so you may have missed the full post.

I the hope of securing a straight answer, I reproduce it here:

"I was addressing my questions directly to Josy, but perhaps as the Mod in question - you could tell me what to do? Should I pm you?

And the 'warning' most certainly DOES NOT speak for itself - for a start it is a private culmination of a very public and distasteful, unfair and unethical sequence of actions perpetrated by a MODERATOR against me.

You made an uninvited post about me on a thread on this forum which contained numerous wrongful allegations about me and I responded CIVILLY to rebut and refute those allegations.

My RESPONSE was removed.

When I posted to CIVILLY ask why you had removed it. That response was almost instantly removed also.

And so on and so forth - 6 times - until I had no choice but to give up trying to exercise my 'Right To Reply'.

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To be fair to you, I think you responded to my post just as I was editing it and adding to it, so you may have missed the full post.

I the hope of securing a straight answer, I reproduce it here:

"I was addressing my questions directly to Josy, but perhaps as the Mod in question - you could tell me what to do? Should I pm you?

And the 'warning' most certainly DOES NOT speak for itself - for a start it is a private culmination of a very public and distasteful, unfair and unethical sequence of actions perpetrated by a MODERATOR against me.

You made an uninvited post about me on a thread on this forum which contained numerous wrongful allegations about me and I responded CIVILLY to rebut and refute those allegations.

My RESPONSE was removed.

When I posted to CIVILLY ask why you had removed it. That response was almost instantly removed also.

And so on and so forth - 6 times - until I had no choice but to give up trying to exercise my 'Right To Reply'.

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You could have always sent a PM asking why but you did not.
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You could have always sent a PM asking why but you did not.
Why did not you - as THE Mod in question then - not pm me as the member whose Right To Reply was denied him by my INNOCENT and perfectly valid posts being repeatedly removed?

In addition, WHY was I given a Warning for simply AND truthfully responding with;

"My proof keeps on being removed"

When YOU yourself invited proof to corroborate Jaxies claim that you were not 'playing by the rules' (or words to that effect) - which you were most certainly not Dezzy.

Should a Moderator leap in and take sides in any debate which he was not previously involved in, by making UNTRUE allegations against one member in defence of another who is on the opposing side of an argument?

WHERE are the lines drawn?

On the subjects of pm's to Mods, I have only ever had the courtesy of TWO replies whenever I HAVE pm'd Mods with a grievance concerning Warnings, Infractions etc; and those have been one from Josy and the other from James.
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Not only have I had COMPLETELY INNOCUOUS posts removed without ANY genuine reason, I have had subsequent posts INSTANTLY removed which simply asked "Why has my innocuous post been removed when it has breached no rules at all?"

I recently had 6 posts removed - ONE AFTER THE OTHER - just as soon as I posted them:

The first was a civil rebuttal response to a Mod who had made accusations against me in a post.

When it was removed not a nano second after I had submitted it, I posted a benign post asking why it had been removed.

When THAT was instantly removed, I posted a STILL civil post asking why my posts were being removed and along with them my Right To Reply.

Later on that thread, the Mod involved asked another member for 'proof' to her allegation that he was not 'playing by the forum's own rules' or words to that effect" and in response to his invitation for 'proof', I posted simply that "My proof keeps being removed".
I see a pattern here...

For the record posts asking why other posts have been removed will also be removed. If you haven't realised this by now...
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