[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

For his own survival (and of the very few people he cared about) sure. For the survival of a group who depend on him? No chance would he be any good for that.

I think he would put those he cared most about first(who wouldn't) but I also think he'd know that keeping a group around him was the best option for survival

[Nicky91]

i would also think about survival of myself and a few others i care about, but the ones who are weak, well they only drag you down, that's one thing i have learned from that walking dead telltale game

[user104658]

Nicky is Negan

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nicky is Negan

no, i'm not

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nicky is Negan

I've noticed how Nicky can go from butter wouldn't melt to loving Donald trump

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I've noticed how Nicky can go from butter wouldn't melt to loving Donald trump

okay

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

okay

[Northern Monkey]

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader

I agree

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

[Nicky91]

yeah and Carl for me is just useless to the show, if Negan did kill him well no one would miss him

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

It's possible if he had'nt got killed while he was still letting his emotions rule his head.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

maybe we'll get some background information about him as well, just for some character development

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

maybe we'll get some background information about him as well, just for some character development

Yeah we probs will.We did with the governor.

[Nicky91]

yeah and when will we see Gregory again

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

He's a really interesting character, first villain I've really been fascinated with in fact

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

You gotta let Shane go Niamh

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think he would put those he cared most about first(who wouldn't) but I also think he'd know that keeping a group around him was the best option for survival

There's a difference between putting those you care for the most first and actually being a leader of a group where it's highly unlikely you care whatsoever about the majority of them beyond them being numbers to increase your chances of survival. And I have no doubt he'd do what he did to Otis to any of them bar Lori and Carl if he felt the need to. This is a guy who wanted to murder his best friend because he wanted his wife.

As I said, Shane before Rick returned was probably a fine leader. Afterwards, however, is a very different story.

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

Yeah but that was before he went really off the deep end (I do think he cared for the others more at the start) and more than anything I think it was him using it as an outlet for his rage over Lori and Rick. Bby the point he died, I'd say literally only Lori and Carl were people who he'd give a damn about going forward (and Judith if he lived longer).

And I totally agree with the last part. It's not like Shane was just a guy who was willing to make tough decisions to survive (as he likely was before he went nuts), he was an unstable psychopath by the end. He did have great leadership qualities earlier on but he'd totally shed them by the time he died.

But all of that said, he's one of my favourite characters because you can tell he was a well-intentioned guy before he started to unravel and I find his fall from grace fascinating.

[Natalie.]

They should have had Shane go away somehow and come back at a later season.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You gotta let Shane go Niamh

Never

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Natalie.

They should have had Shane go away somehow and come back at a later season.

I know right? Lostie is dead to me

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

There's a difference between putting those you care for the most first and actually being a leader of a group where it's highly unlikely you care whatsoever about the majority of them beyond them being numbers to increase your chances of survival. And I have no doubt he'd do what he did to Otis to any of them bar Lori and Carl if he felt the need to. This is a guy who wanted to murder his best friend because he wanted his wife.

As I said, Shane before Rick returned was probably a fine leader. Afterwards, however, is a very different story.



Yeah but that was before he went really off the deep end (I do think he cared for the others more at the start) and more than anything I think it was him using it as an outlet for his rage over Lori and Rick. Bby the point he died, I'd say literally only Lori and Carl were people who he'd give a damn about going forward (and Judith if he lived longer).

And I totally agree with the last part. It's not like Shane was just a guy who was willing to make tough decisions to survive (as he likely was before he went nuts), he was an unstable psychopath by the end. He did have great leadership qualities earlier on but he'd totally shed them by the time he died.

But all of that said, he's one of my favourite characters because you can tell he was a well-intentioned guy before he started to unravel and I find his fall from grace fascinating.

Maybe he was just having a break down like Rick, only his was better

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know right? Lostie is dead to me

Oh at you overlooking the part where I said he's one of my favourite characters (and I actually agree with Natalie)