[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Maru

Oh when I say I don't care... it's to say I don't care if someone becomes disgruntled over something that comes down to wording. We all have differing perspectives on things. I can accept this easily.

Kirk, I wish my husband had more time to post... he would be really enlightening as to the idiotic things that go on where he works. Not really pertaining to those who are mentally ill, but those in housing... he has talk people through some of their own reasoning to get them to change their mind and to go from resistance to compliance... people are just silly.

Other stories are just downright not believable. Most officers say they have been asked some details and when they tell folk, they just can't believe it... Some things are closer to the truth than people actually really realize

As a debater though, I can't really debate something without non-biased sources... I tend to believe the sillier side of things, again... from vast experience and my husband's own stories, I can't immediately discount it. Still, I don't think that it would even change the mind of someone on the opposing side to hear these stories... for most folk, seeing is believing. But good luck with that, some people are too busy playing armchair politician to check what really happens outside their chair... aside from that, most counter arguments on this board are from an emotional standpoint... and you can't argue someone's feeling on matters. That's really personal to them and I've never successfully changed someone's 'feeling' about something... it comes down to their willpower and willingness to leave their comfort zone and look for perspective.

That last bit was a little OT, but I guess it applies to this thread.

Another great post Maru, and I will plagiarise the emboldened bit to use in one of my off-Tib debates.