[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Why cant your criticism be critiqued though?

It can, but to just resort to namecalling is not critique, it's an attempt to shut down further discussion on the subject. That then gets peoples' backs up and, well the rest is history.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It can, but to just resort to namecalling is not critique, it's an attempt to shut down further discussion on the subject. That then gets peoples' backs up and, well the rest is history.

So I guess calling - for example - a racist post 'racist' is okay, but calling the poster 'racist' is not okay? Like freedom of speech aside, is this your argument?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

So I guess calling - for example - a racist post 'racist' is okay, but calling the poster 'racist' is not okay? Like freedom of speech aside, is this your argument?

Well doesn't that depend on what was said for someone to make an allegation of racism - not every such allegation opwill necessarily be 'racist' and may just be that person's interpretation.

Just because someone cries racist doesn't make it true. If you disagree with a post you say why not just shout racist because you don't agree, for example to simply dismiss peoples' concerns on the effects of mass immigration as racist is unreasonable and incorrect.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Well doesn't that depend on what was said for someone to make an allegation of racism - not every such allegation opwill necessarily be 'racist' and may just be that person's interpretation.

Just because someone cries racist doesn't make it true. If you disagree with a post you say why not just shout racist because you don't agree, for example to simply dismiss peoples' concerns on the effects of mass immigration as racist is unreasonable and incorrect.

This is all hypothetical, to try and understand what your opinions on freedom of speech really are cos youve contradicted yourself a few times..

Is writing an obviously sexist post okay cos freedom of speech?
Is calling the post sexist okay cos freedom of speech?
Is calling the poster sexist okay cos freedom of speech?

Can you just reiterate what your argument is by answering these Qs.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

This is all hypothetical, to try and understand what your opinions on freedom of speech really are cos youve contradicted yourself a few times..

Is writing an obviously sexist post okay cos freedom of speech?
Is calling the post sexist okay cos freedom of speech?
Is calling the poster sexist okay cos freedom of speech?

Can you just reiterate what your argument is by answering these Qs.

I have not contradicted myself. I have stated how hypocritical it is of a poster from the for immigration camp to accuse those from the against immigration camp of taking offence at criticism of their views when the person posting has previously taken offence at any criticism of their views by resorting to name-calling. What is that if not hypocritical?

If someone writes a blatant sexist/racist post it is open to both interpretation and criticism. But people should remember how they have reacted in the past before being quick to accuse others. That is my point.


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[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I have not contradicted myself. I have stated how hypocritical it is of a poster from the for immigration camp to accuse those from the against immigration camp of taking offence at criticism of their views when the person posting has previously taken offence of any criticism of their views by resorting to name-calling. What is that if not hypocritical?



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i dont even believe you know what youre talking about anymore either

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

i dont even believe you know what youre talking about anymore either

I don't believe you understand what you read, so best we leave it there.