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Toy Soldier · 24-01-2017, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

demeans this section of the site, its sad and childish.

... ... from you, LT? Really? I mean ... ... Really?

Livia · 24-01-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I had a sig that was the ex PM waving...it looked a bit like a nazi salute..you asked for it to be removed, indignation? :/

It "looked a bit like a nazi salute"? You only posted it because it looked like a nazi salute! I did ask for it to be removed and when it was it was over for me. You're the one who has brought it up all this time later. Provocative.

Kizzy · 24-01-2017, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

It "looked a bit like a nazi salute"? You only posted it because it looked like a nazi salute! I did ask for it to be removed and when it was it was over for me. You're the one who has brought it up all this time later. Provocative.

I did yes, however it was just an innocent wave and my sig innocent satire, you chose to take offence to it...ergo I'm raising it to highlight your double standard here.

Livia · 24-01-2017, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I did yes, however it was just an innocent wave and my sig innocent satire, you chose to take offence to it...ergo I'm raising it to highlight your double standard here.

Well, you are the expert when it comes to double standards, I'll give you that.

The fact is that Trump is nothing like Hitler. Cameron was nothing like Hitler. Only Hitler was like Hitler.

Niamh. · 24-01-2017, 11:03 AM

This house was like Hitler though tbf

Spoiler:

Livia · 24-01-2017, 11:05 AM

LOL... They should turn that house into a synagogue.

Kizzy · 24-01-2017, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Well, you are the expert when it comes to double standards, I'll give you that.

The fact is that Trump is nothing like Hitler. Cameron was nothing like Hitler. Only Hitler was like Hitler.

I won't ask for an example to that knee jerk reaction.

You forgot that socialists are nothing like nazis.... you could edit and add it?
Actually don't bother, I'll just take it as red that's what you meant.

y.winter · 24-01-2017, 11:22 AM

As much as I dislike Trump, I think it's somewhat populist and OTT comparison. Leave it alone and be more matter of fact - blame him for the things he does, not for the things you would like to scare others. Sometimes it's pure demonising for nothing, getting carried away way too far.

Kizzy · 24-01-2017, 11:28 AM

I think an ideological comparison is apt, lets start listing the things he's done thus far in his presidency if you really want scary...

Niamh. · 24-01-2017, 11:32 AM

I think it's important to keep Hitler and his reign in our minds so we don't end up going down a similar path again ever.

y.winter · 24-01-2017, 11:38 AM

Abortions and genocide... Apples and oranges.

Kizzy · 24-01-2017, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by y.winter

Abortions and genocide... Apples and oranges.

Did hitler, begin small? planting seeds, propaganda... everything has a beginning, does what trump has done thus far look to be the start of something good?

Withano · 24-01-2017, 11:48 AM

So many snowflakes in this thread. PC gone mad when comparisons to two world leaders cant be made.

Ronald. · 24-01-2017, 11:57 AM

Trump isn't that bad. He's quite funny. R.

y.winter · 24-01-2017, 11:58 AM

Yes, it doesn't look good. Still, I find it being facebook-like populism. There's no genocide in sight, America is far from that and won't let itself get to that point.

Denver · 24-01-2017, 11:59 AM

^^^

-Acts like Trump didnt blow up a city of 14,000 on his 1st day in charge-

Kizzy · 24-01-2017, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

So many snowflakes in this thread. PC gone mad when comparisons to two world leaders cant be made.

Well, this has been my argument all along... as on the thread regarding the lecturer, anyone particularly young people who voice a concern these days are immediately slapped down with these labels.

Any query made by anyone questioning anything from anyone in a position of 'authority' is mocked, regardless of how valid or fact based it may be.
The replies are becoming less and less explanatory (people are sick of experts) and more and more aggressive (attacks on whistleblowers)

These derogatory labels are nothing but a smokescreen.

Toy Soldier · 24-01-2017, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Any query made by anyone questioning anything from anyone in a position of 'authority' is mocked, regardless of how valid or fact based it may be.
The replies are becoming less and less explanatory (people are sick of experts) and more and more aggressive (attacks on whistleblowers)

These derogatory labels are nothing but a smokescreen.

Shut up Kizzy, maybe once YOU'VE been elected president of the most powerful country in the world, then you will be able to have an opinion on Trump.

Livia · 24-01-2017, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

So many snowflakes in this thread. PC gone mad when comparisons to two world leaders cant be made.

Several times I've seen people cry Godwin's Law when Hitler is brought into a discussion. Not this time though?

Withano · 24-01-2017, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Several times I've seen people cry Godwin's Law when Hitler is brought into a discussion. Not this time though?

I cant talk for everybody, my opinions on the original post are on the first page somewhere. this post that you quoted was paraphrasing one of the members who appear the most upset by the OP as an attempt to highlight that members hypocrisy.

Livia · 24-01-2017, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

I cant talk for everybody, my opinions on the original post are on the first page somewhere. this post that you quoted was paraphrasing one of the members who appear the most upset by the OP as an attempt to highlight that members hypocrisy.

We're getting further and further away from the point. Can't we just debate? You know... in the real sense of the word? It's not about showing people to be hypocrites or scoring points... no one gets the last word because everyone's opinion differs.

Withano · 24-01-2017, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

We're getting further and further away from the point. Can't we just debate? You know... in the real sense of the word? It's not about showing people to be hypocrites or scoring points... no one gets the last word because everyone's opinion differs.

How many points for sitting on the highest horse. Thats a good score you have there. Im jelly. Also brilliantly on point and very relevant to the debate.

Livia · 24-01-2017, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

How many points for sitting on the highest horse. Thats a good score you have there. Im jelly. Also brilliantly on point and very relevant to the debate.

Once again, I wasn't rude to you. What is your problem?

Withano · 24-01-2017, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Once again, I wasn't rude to you. What is your problem?

I was going to cut and paste small parts of the post and explain why I found it rude.., but actually all of it seems rude to me. Maybe I read it in a different tone of voice than you intended.. But I'm leaning more towards the liklihood of you intending on being rude tbh.

Livia · 24-01-2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

I was going to cut and paste small parts of the post and explain why I found it rude.., but actually all of it seems rude to me. Maybe I read it in a different tone of voice than you intended.. But I'm leaning more towards the liklihood of you intending on being rude tbh.

Then you are mistaken. Maybe you don't know me well enough to know. My mistake I suppose. You are so defensive. There is no need. Anyhoo... I'm going to leave it for now. You're not on ignore, and I was not intentionally rude to you. Not at all.

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