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Old 29-01-2017, 04:13 PM #126
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A Federal Judge Just Issued a Stay Against Donald Trump's "Muslim Ban

A federal judge in Brooklyn issued an emergency stay Saturday night against President Donald Trump's executive order banning immigration from certain predominantly Muslim countries, temporarily allowing people who have landed in the United States with a valid visa to remain.
The ruling—a stunning defeat for Trump at the end of his first week in office



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A Federal Judge Just Issued a Stay Against Donald Trump's "Muslim Ban

A federal judge in Brooklyn issued an emergency stay Saturday night against President Donald Trump's executive order banning immigration from certain predominantly Muslim countries, temporarily allowing people who have landed in the United States with a valid visa to remain.
The ruling—a stunning defeat for Trump at the end of his first week in office



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I mean, it's also the top story on BBC News if that isn't too commie for you
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I mean, it's also the top story on BBC News if that isn't too commie for you
I was referring to this bolloxio

"The ruling—a stunning defeat for Trump at the end of his first week in office"
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Not to mention the "quote" in your post is from some random bloke on Quora, which we all know is a much more respectable source
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I was referring to this bolloxio

"The ruling—a stunning defeat for Trump at the end of his first week in office"
Yes, because it's been a bloody wonderful week for Trump
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Yes, because it's been a bloody wonderful week for Trump
IT has, he has met TM and has astounded the world with how to plow ahead with what you said you would. I would imagine the whole Trump team are ecstatic at what has been achieved so far

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IT has, he has met TM and has astounded the world with how to plow ahead with what you said you would. I would imagine the whole Trump team are ecstatic at what has been achieved so far

If you ignore the fact that one of the major parts of his flagship policy has just been halted, or the mass global protests against him, or Sean Spicer's disastrous first few days as Press Secretary, or pretty much everything else that's happened, yes
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Jewish groups weren't thrilled with the timing of Trump's actions:
Washington (CNN)Many organizations that advocate for refugees slammed President Donald Trump's executive action Friday imposing "extreme vetting" on those fleeing to America, among them Jewish groups that took particular exception to the day on which he signed it: Holocaust Remembrance Day.
"It's repulsive," said Mark Hetfield, president and CEO of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, a faith-based nonprofit dedicated to resettling refugees in the United States. "I mean, the timing is incredibly offensive."
"It was during the Holocaust that the world shamefully refused to give asylum to Jews and to others who were being murdered or about to be murdered in Nazi Germany," Hetfield added, referring to the US government's decision to turn away European refugees during World War II.
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If you ignore the fact that one of the major parts of his flagship policy has just been halted, or the mass global protests against him, or Sean Spicer's disastrous first few days as Press Secretary, or pretty much everything else that's happened, yes
i understand that is your subjective summary but I also understand its just that
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"Big-Big Biased Piece of Socialist Agenda Crap"

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Same news http://perspectivabetica.com/2017/01...donald-trumps/

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...e-polls-230754

http://usflash.org/world/2017/01/29/...uslim-ban.html
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A Federal Judge Just Issued a Stay Against Donald Trump's "Muslim Ban

A federal judge in Brooklyn issued an emergency stay Saturday night against President Donald Trump's executive order banning immigration from certain predominantly Muslim countries, temporarily allowing people who have landed in the United States with a valid visa to remain.
The ruling—a stunning defeat for Trump at the end of his first week in office



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Only temporary and only those with a visa.
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So basically many on here are saying that the death of a few Americans via terrorist hands is preferable to banning Muslims from the country. Even an increase in that figure would be preferred to denying Muslims the right to stay. Nice. As long as it isn't their own of course.
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I wonder if you would be so blase about that if one of those fatalities had been someone close to you.. Always different when it is faceless strangers hey...

The more people we let in the more extremists we will get and your chart will change considerably.
It doesn't change a thing, you're bringing emotions into a discussion about facts because you can't argue with the said facts.

If you wish to generalise threats in America then why aren't you campaigning against socially awkward white teenagers since they are more likely to kill people en masse in the US than a Muslim is. Domestic terrorism IE school shootings, attacks on abortion clinics, other types of mass shootings in public places are more common than a terrorist attack from a foreign extremist. Even when you look at the domestic attacks, the chances of being killed by a muslim terrorist are less than that than an upset white teenager that's mad at the world.

The restrictions placed on Muslim countries will not prevent terrorism, it is just a placebo for the willfully ignorant. Attitudes like yours are part of the problem and I believe Trump's actions will likely lead to more than one major terrorist attack in the near future since he is aggravating the situation instead of taking meaningful actions to solve the problem once and for all.
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So basically many on here are saying that the death of a few Americans via terrorist hands is preferable to banning Muslims from the country. Even an increase in that figure would be preferred to denying Muslims the right to stay. Nice. As long as it isn't their own of course.
Basically no, nobody is saying that, this is something you are attempting to project onto other members wrongly.
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Not to mention that more Americans are killed in lightning strikes than domestic terrorist attacks, which I'm sure would lead Trump to try and ban all weather
What are you trying to tell us? Are you saying we don't need to worry about terrorism, but instead concentrate on the weather?
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As well as being an absolute racist twat, Donald trump is incredibly stupid as well. There have been ZERO Americans killed by citizens of any of the banned countries since 1975. People have been killed by Saudis and Egyptians but those countries aren't banned- I wonder why! Oh yeah, it's because Trump has business interests in those countries.

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I think stringent checks on people from those countries is only sensible.However a ban is going to turn out to be pretty impractical and unworkable.For example there is a Conservative politician in Britain who was born in Iraq.What if he needs to go to the US on business?I think a ban will bring all kinds of problems.It will be a logistical nightmare.
I don't agree with his ban on refugees either.The US needs to be taking its fair share in along with every other country.Not doing so will just put more stress on Europe.
He's not thinking things through.It's almost like giving a toddler the keys to your car.
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As well as being an absolute racist twat, Donald trump is incredibly stupid as well. There have been ZERO Americans killed by citizens of any of the banned countries since 1975. People have been killed by Saudis and Egyptians but those countries aren't banned- I wonder why! Oh yeah, it's because Trump has business interests in those countries.
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