[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'll have a bit of that. A fantastic period in music just about to happen, Alf Garnett will shortly be in our lives and England will win the World cup in four year's time.

Rather that, then this year 1984 we're currently living in.

I'll give you the music part.

But the general sentiment... That's the inherent flaw in wanting to wind the clock back. "Now is bad, let's go back to before it was bad". If you go back to before it was bad, bad is still coming.

The ONLY hope is always forward. Never look back. Hope that what comes next is better.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'll give you the music part.

But the general sentiment... That's the inherent flaw in wanting to wind the clock back. "Now is bad, let's go back to before it was bad". If you go back to before it was bad, bad is still coming.

The ONLY hope is always forward. Never look back. Hope that what comes next is better.

The grass is always greener kind of thinking. It rarely is. Seems much more likely there is a lot of bad to look forward to. You think the world will become a better place - I would say the opposite. Progressive, forward-thinking - they are just words, pretty empty words really. Forward to what exactly?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Forward to what exactly?

In general as opposed to backward?..

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

In general as opposed to backward?..

That comes down to opinion, not fact. We can learn a lot from the past. Advanced technology for example does not mean a better world. It can have the opposite effect. Where we gain in some areas we lose in others.

Young people don't understand that and never will coz you can't put an old head on young shoulders ! People have to learn that for themselves, often to their cost.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That comes down to opinion, not fact. We can learn a lot from the past. Advanced technology for example does not mean a better world. It can have the opposite effect. Where we gain in some areas we lose in others.

Young people don't understand that and never will coz you can't put an old head on young shoulders ! People have to learn that for themselves, often to their cost.

Are you saying you would like to go backwards? Is that why you support UKIP? (Thats how your post came across, correct me if I'm wrong).

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That comes down to opinion, not fact. We can learn a lot from the past. Advanced technology for example does not mean a better world. It can have the opposite effect. Where we gain in some areas we lose in others.

Young people don't understand that and never will coz you can't put an old head on young shoulders ! People have to learn that for themselves, often to their cost.

I'm not saying you have to look forward and move forward because things always improve, I'm saying you can't keep trying to move backwards because you literally CAN'T, cannot, whether it was better or not.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The grass is always greener kind of thinking. It rarely is. Seems much more likely there is a lot of bad to look forward to. You think the world will become a better place - I would say the opposite. Progressive, forward-thinking - they are just words, pretty empty words really. Forward to what exactly?

"The grass is always greener" perfectly describes the idea that things "used to be so much better so we should go back to that". In fact it's the very origin of the phrase