[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Meanwhile, all the other countries who have simiar bans in place, continue unopposed.

Such as?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Such as?

Japan for one.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

Japan for one.

You've used this argument multiple times, it's foolishness to compare what was an isolationist country for many years to a country that was purportedly built on freedom.

Like I've said before in response to this flawed argument, it'd be like trying to take focus off Trump's abuses of power by saying 'well, Kim Jong Il is way worse but no one is talking about HIM!'.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You've used this argument multiple times, it's foolishness to compare what was an isolationist country for many years to a country that was purportedly built on freedom.

Like I've said before in response to this flawed argument, it'd be like trying to take focus off Trump's abuses of power by saying 'well, Kim Jong Il is way worse but no one is talking about HIM!'.

That's part of the problem - people should be talking about the likes of him.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That's part of the problem - people should be talking about the likes of him.

There's basically nothing we can do about Kim Jong Un without potentially starting a load of **** with China since they are allies. All we can really do about Kim Jong Un is hope that it all collapses in on the Kim dynasty before long.

The US is basically like a neighbour a few doors down and unlike pretty much every country there's ever been The US's laws and constitution were built on the idea of freedom for all and Trump is threatening that more than any other president. What happens in the US affects the entirety of the west, if a dangerous idiot gets put in charge then it puts us all in a precarious position.

People keep talking about Trump because he's a threat to us, more than Kim Jong Un and any other poorly thought out comparisons to take attention off Trump.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's basically nothing we can do about Kim Jong Un without potentially starting a load of **** with China since they are allies. All we can really do about Kim Jong Un is hope that it all collapses in on the Kim dynasty before long.

The US is basically like a neighbour a few doors down and unlike pretty much every country there's ever been The US's laws and constitution were built on the idea of freedom for all and Trump is threatening that more than any other president. What happens in the US affects the entirety of the west, if a dangerous idiot gets put in charge then it puts us all in a precarious position.

People keep talking about Trump because he's a threat to us, more than Kim Jong Un and any other poorly thought out comparisons to take attention off Trump.

By just letting the likes of dictatorships such China and many Muslim countries off the hook by just accepting that is their way and we can do nothing about it compounds the problem.

These people and their ways need to be challenged as religion is often just used as an excuse to indulge in grotesque, primitive practice and criminal acts. This fear some have of challenging such so-called religious practice is not democratic it is cowardice.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

By just letting the likes of dictatorships such China and many Muslim countries off the hook by just accepting that is their way and we can do nothing about it compounds the problem.

These people and their ways need to be challenged as religion is often just used as an excuse to indulge in grotesque, primitive practice and criminal acts. This fear some have of challenging such so-called religious practice is not democratic it is cowardice.

We are not responsible for policing the world nor should we force our views and ways onto countries halfway around the world.

To get involved with places like NK could easily spark a series of events that could lead us into WW3.