[the truth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw

[Marsh.]

Poor men.

[DemolitionRed]

What this proves is, a man hitting a woman makes him scum but a woman hitting a man is funny... sad, pathetic and cringe worthy.

The only thing I'd say is, he did come across a bit heavy handed. What he should of done was physically restrain her but I think he got the reaction he did because she fell to the ground a couple of times. Its normally assumed that a man can physically stick up for himself over a woman, whereas a woman is less likely able to defend herself against a man.

Made me feel very uncomfortable all the same.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What this proves is, a man hitting a woman makes him scum but a woman hitting a man is funny... sad, pathetic and cringe worthy.

The only thing I'd say is, he did come across a bit heavy handed. What he should of done was physically restrain her but I think he got the reaction he did because she fell to the ground a couple of times. Its normally assumed that a man can physically stick up for himself over a woman, whereas a woman is less likely able to defend herself against a man.

Made me feel very uncomfortable all the same.

Yeah men do have to use abit of restraint as generally we are stronger.I say generally because there are some tough women out there.When we first met me and my gf used to get drunk alot and she hit me a few times.I never needed to hit her back.I just scared her into not doing it again.I would regret hitting a woman afterwards.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah men do have to use abit of restraint as generally we are stronger.I say generally because there are some tough women out there.When we first met me and my gf used to get drunk alot and she hit me a few times.I never needed to hit her back.I just scared her into not doing it again.I would regret hitting a woman afterwards.

I suppose the term "reasonable force" probably applies here rather than making it a male/female thing. Obviously no one should ever hit anyone and people are perfectly entitled to defend themselves but you know, it'd be like if a 10 year old started hitting me, I'm not going to beat the s**t out of them like I could do but I would restrain them. It absolutely depends on the situation I think

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I suppose the term "reasonable force" probably applies here rather than making it a male/female thing. Obviously no one should ever hit anyone and people are perfectly entitled to defend themselves but you know, it'd be like if a 10 year old started hitting me, I'm not going to beat the s**t out of them like I could do but I would restrain them. It absolutely depends on the situation I think

Yeah,That probably sums it up best."reasonable force".
Also it is always the men who intervene.The men are the ones creating the inequality.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah,That probably sums it up best."reasonable force".
Also it is always the men who intervene.The men are the ones creating the inequality.

ssshhhhh we can't point that out, it's surely the feminists fault somehow

[Withano]

I know the Truth didnt make a point but I'd imagine hes trying to highlight the inequality of men
Firstly shut up
Secondly how can we compare a woman lightly pushing a guy around because he was texting somebody else, to a man screaming and pushing a woman to the ground with force in retaliation to his wrongdoings
What a terrible experiment.

[smudgie]

If a woman hits a man she should be aware of the consequences.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If a woman hits a man she should be aware of the consequences.

I do agree.However i think the consequences should be a little measured.Not a full blown jaw breaking left hook.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Withano

I know the Truth didnt make a point but I'd imagine hes trying to highlight the inequality of men
Firstly shut up
Secondly how can we compare a woman lightly pushing a guy around because he was texting somebody else, to a man screaming and pushing a woman to the ground with force in retaliation to his wrongdoings
What a terrible experiment.

Tbf I don't think pushing a woman to the floor is a bad method of restraint.It beats hitting her.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If a woman hits a man she should be aware of the consequences.

With the video at the top it seems as if youre suggesting that the consequences should be physical retaliation, instead of jail time/police trouble?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Tbf I don't think pushing a woman to the floor is a bad method of restraint.It beats hitting her.

Its not the worst. I'm just highlighting why the experiment means nothing. You cant make any conclusions about gender because of the differences in the way they behaved in this "social experiment".
You cant be like 'oh they ignored the lovers tiff, but they stand up against men who border on actual physical violence, therefore men are treated worse'.

No constant in an experiment = no real experiment = no conclusions.

It would have been interesting to see a weak looking man lightly shove a stronger looking woman with loud claims of her texting someone else before she pelted him to the ground with harrowing yells.

[Kizzy]

The level of abuse although unwarranted even given the supposed provocation, the level of violence and the shouting was ramped up when the scene switched to the male abusing the female... Why was he shouting 'I'm a man!' while pushing her to the ground?

The two scenarios although conjoined were nothing alike. In one the woman portrayed as a wronged reactive hysterical female lashing out, and in the next the man is seen giving no other explanation for his dominance and aggression while knocking her to the ground other than ' don't hit me, I'm a man'.

For this to be an accurate response video then the language, tone and level of violence needed to be consistent between the two.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Withano

Its not the worst. I'm just highlighting why the experiment means nothing. You cant make any conclusions about gender because of the differences in the way they behaved in this "social experiment".
You cant be like 'oh they ignored the lovers tiff, but they stand up against men who border on actual physical violence, therefore men are treated worse'.

No constant in an experiment = no real experiment = no conclusions.

It would have been interesting to see a weak looking man lightly shove a stronger looking woman with loud claims of her texting someone else before she pelted him to the ground with harrowing yells.

That would be interesting to see the reactions of that.I'd like to see that video.If the woman was bigger in stature than the man.

[user104658]

The thing is, it shouldn't need to be an issue. I believe I heard one of the bystanders sum it up in the first "experiment" after all the people step in and he says "She kept hitting me! I don't want her hitting me any more!"

One of the people replies;

"So WALK AWAY FROM HER then!"


And that should be the point. Not just there and then, but full stop. If someone in your life is physically abusing you with no intention of stopping or getting help, leave them. You might think you love them, they might think they love you, but they certainly don't respect you and your basic right not to be physically abused for any reason. Simple as that. No need to fight back. Get them out of your life. Applies to males and females.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The thing is, it shouldn't need to be an issue. I believe I heard one of the bystanders sum it up in the first "experiment" after all the people step in and he says "She kept hitting me! I don't want her hitting me any more!"

One of the people replies;

"So WALK AWAY FROM HER then!"


And that should be the point. Not just there and then, but full stop. If someone in your life is physically abusing you with no intention of stopping or getting help, leave them. You might think you love them, they might think they love you, but they certainly don't respect you and your basic right not to be physically abused for any reason. Simple as that. No need to fight back. Get them out of your life. Applies to males and females.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

That would be interesting to see the reactions of that.I'd like to see that video.If the woman was bigger in stature than the man.

I had the pleasure of seeing that once. I was walking down the road with my friend who just happens to be a big black woman who works as a security guard. As we passed this guy he started verbally abusing her. We walked on trying to ignore him but he persisted and even started following us whilst shouting his mouth off. She suddenly stopped, calmly looked at me and said, "excuse me one moment" before walking up to him and with one strike putting him on the deck. He didn't fight back but I think he realized he'd met more than his match.

[DemolitionRed]

I think the whole point of this video is a "what would you do" scenario?

Some men do hit their partners and that's unacceptable. Some women do hit their partners and that's unacceptable too. What was shown in this video, at least the second half of it, is that people think its funny when a woman hits a man but feel angry and protective when a man hits a woman. Surely society should feel the same way about both?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I think the whole point of this video is a "what would you do" scenario?

Some men do hit their partners and that's unacceptable. Some women do hit their partners and that's unacceptable too. What was shown in this video, at least the second half of it, is that people think its funny when a woman hits a man but feel angry and protective when a man hits a woman. Surely society should feel the same way about both?

Should the context have been the same then that would have been easier to determine.
I agree it should be reacted to equally.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I had the pleasure of seeing that once. I was walking down the road with my friend who just happens to be a big black woman who works as a security guard. As we passed this guy he started verbally abusing her. We walked on trying to ignore him but he persisted and even started following us whilst shouting his mouth off. She suddenly stopped, calmly looked at me and said, "excuse me one moment" before walking up to him and with one strike putting him on the deck. He didn't fight back but I think he realized he'd met more than his match.

I mean i would love to have seen that.She didn't take any ****.
However now imagine that your friend is a big bloke and a smaller woman was walking down behind you and verbally abusing him and he turned round said 'excuse me one moment' and gave her one strike that decked her.....
Do you think your reaction would've been any different?

[UserSince2005]

Disgusting, no man should have to go through that.

[thesheriff443]

Would like to see livia kick the truth in the nuts in the style of someone taking a penalty.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Would like to see livia kick the truth in the nuts in the style of someone taking a penalty.

yes please

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Withano

With the video at the top it seems as if youre suggesting that the consequences should be physical retaliation, instead of jail time/police trouble?

I am talking real life, not some set up scenario on video.
Sometimes a quick slap back is better than the police time etc.
Some people react differently to others. Therefore be aware of the consequences before you lash out, male or female.