[Withano]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

It was more than "lightly pushing a guy around". Sure, the guy's retaliation was more aggressive

Actually, that reminds me of another one of these experiments I saw (one where the level of aggression from both parties was pretty equal). One woman walking past while the woman was being aggressive did a little fist pump and when asked about it afterwards said "I just assumed he deserved it". Yet in the very same experiment, nobody voiced anything close to that attitude when the roles were reversed.

I mean, this was more the point I was making.
The social experiment means nothing because of the reason I left from within your first paragraph, and it would be interesting to see a video like the one you saw to have a discussion on this properly.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Withano

I mean, this was more the point I was making.
The social experiment means nothing because of the reason I left from within your first paragraph, and it would be interesting to see a video like the one you saw to have a discussion on this properly.

But the part of my first paragraph you left intact was in reference only to the first section of the experiment. The last section had the woman being the more aggressive party in my opinion (and he's hardly some big burly muscle man is he?), and yet still only the man's retaliation spurred intervention. I thought that was worthy of discussion.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But the part of my first paragraph you left intact was in reference only to the first section of the experiment. The last section had the woman being the more aggressive party in my opinion (and he's hardly some big burly muscle man is he?), and yet still only the man's retaliation spurred intervention. I thought that was worthy of discussion.

I dont entirely agree, the female was the one who was pushed to the ground in a way which would suggest she was no longer able to defend herself, whereas the man stays calm and on two legs whilst blocking her hits throughout.
Its just a terrible social experiment made by children, for children. I dont think this it says anything about human behaviour. It would (still) be interesting to see an experiment which does.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Withano

I dont entirely agree, the female was the one who was pushed to the ground in a way which would suggest she was no longer able to defend herself, whereas the man stays calm and on two legs whilst blocking her hits throughout.
Its just a terrible social experiment made by children, for children. I dont think this it says anything about human behaviour. It would (still) be interesting to see an experiment which does.

That's not what I saw. He ends up on the ground at one point and is yanked by his hair more than once. And "no longer able to defend herself" is an odd way to refer to the one instigating the aggression. I absolutely think her actions were more jarring in that part.

I get your reservations about the first section (although I completely disagree with his response in any way diluting her actions) but I think the last section is definitely worthy of discussion.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

That's not what I saw. He ends up on the ground at one point and is yanked by his hair more than once. And "no longer able to defend herself" is an odd way to refer to the one instigating the aggression. I absolutely think her actions were more jarring in that part.

I get your reservations about the first section (although I completely disagree with his response in any way diluting her actions) but I think the last section is definitely worthy of discussion.

Bottom line for me is, I think people would have stepped in if they felt as if there was a possibility of this man becoming physically injured. This experiment did not portray this man is such a way, but it did portray the woman this way twice.

Any social commentry about this video is purely based on an uneven and misleading experiment rather than conclusions that can be drawn about human behaviour.

It would be interesting to see if a well-made social experiment would yield similar results.