[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

There may be 100 other groups but ISIS are the ones carrying out all the terror attacks in the West currently and should be top of the list.

One thing that's been proven over and over again is, you can't fight gorilla warfare like you can a conventional war because there's no clear supply line. ISIS is so entrenched in multiple areas that they are virtually impossible to pin down.

Perhaps we should ask ourselves, why does ISIS exist and why is ISIS targetting the West? Should we just get out and stop trying to police that part of the world for our own material gain? We need to remind ourselves that just as ISIS is evil to us, the West is equally as evil to ISIS.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

One thing that's been proven over and over again is, you can't fight gorilla warfare like you can a conventional war because there's no clear supply line. ISIS is so entrenched in multiple areas that they are virtually impossible to pin down.

Perhaps we should ask ourselves, why does ISIS exist and why is ISIS targetting the West? Should we just get out and stop trying to police that part of the world for our own material gain? We need to remind ourselves that just as ISIS is evil to us, the West is equally as evil to ISIS.

And why are they entrenched in multiple areas - it's all part of their plan. Hence the battle the West now have with the enemy within. We only have ourselves to blame for that in my opinion. Finally, hopefully, the West are waking up to that.

You make it sound as if they don't dictate to and terrorise their own people, especially the poor women. As if they just go about their lives not bothering anyone else unless others bother them. They are tyrants who need to control others and make their lives a misery. Who are you trying to convince!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

And why are they entrenched in multiple areas - it's all part of their plan. Hence the battle the West now have with the enemy within. We only have ourselves to blame for that in my opinion. Finally, hopefully, the West are waking up to that.

You make it sound as if they don't dictate to and terrorise their own people, especially the poor women. As if they just go about their lives not bothering anyone else unless others bother them. They are tyrants who need to control others and make their lives a misery. Who are you trying to convince!

Good point

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

And why are they entrenched in multiple areas - it's all part of their plan. Hence the battle the West now have with the enemy within. We only have ourselves to blame for that in my opinion. Finally, hopefully, the West are waking up to that.

Of course its part of their plan. They know the terrain, their enemies don't. I mean, good grief, the American army don't even know who to target because ISIS soldiers can look like civilians; all they can do is rely on tip-offs and interception but neither of those things are reliable

Like you say, its the same in the West. These lone wolves come out of nowhere. They can walk among us without creating suspicion

You make it sound as if they don't dictate to and terrorise their own people, especially the poor women. As if they just go about their lives not bothering anyone else unless others bother them. They are tyrants who need to control others and make their lives a misery. Who are you trying to convince!

They are all fighting for their own cause and many of these fractions are as equally as bad as ISIS... meaning they lop off peoples heads, rape and imprison women and murder babies in arms. The Shiites are as bad as the Sunnis who are as bad as the Wahabis and in the middle of all that mess are people who just want to live peaceful lives or get out of that hell hole.

What am I trying to convince people of? I think I have a fairly good understanding of what started this mess. I know the western governments were no innocents in this and I don't believe for an iota of a second that our governments are the good Samaritans that are trying to resolve this mess.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

They are all fighting for their own cause and many of these fractions are as equally as bad as ISIS... meaning they lop off peoples heads, rape and imprison women and murder babies in arms. The Shiites are as bad as the Sunnis who are as bad as the Wahabis and in the middle of all that mess are people who just want to live peaceful lives or get out of that hell hole.

Hmm.....


Not the best endorsement for bringing them over here

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Hmm.....


Not the best endorsement for bringing them over here

Laughing aside; it makes bringing them over here a lot more complex than just looking out for ISIS insurgents. The FSA and NURSA Front are both revolutionary armies. ISIS are just better at spreading propaganda, especially when it comes to the West. If NF or FSA were to claim a terrorist attack over here, the government, for the sake of public knowledge, would tell us it was ISIS and ISIS would be happy with stealing that brownie point.

We do need to give the innocents a choice of escape, but what we can't do is release people who are under suspicion until we make a decision to send them back or not. I believe that's what happened with the Swedish attacker.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

One thing that's been proven over and over again is, you can't fight gorilla warfare like you can a conventional war because there's no clear supply line. ISIS is so entrenched in multiple areas that they are virtually impossible to pin down.

Perhaps we should ask ourselves, why does ISIS exist and why is ISIS targetting the West? Should we just get out and stop trying to police that part of the world for our own material gain? We need to remind ourselves that just as ISIS is evil to us, the West is equally as evil to ISIS.

They don't just target the West though do they?