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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Ffs, no-one is saying the West are perfect, but they don't brutalise, terrorise or murder their own people. They don't stone young women to death for daring to stand-up to the system. Whatever the West's faults, and there are plenty, they don't have the complete lack of human rights of the Middle East.

Do you think that's why America has got involved?

I don't pretend to be an expert on the Middle East but like most I am aware of their appauling human rights' record. I also seem to recall that when we went into Iraq many Muslims there were begging the West to intervene and get rid of a murdering dictator. The Middle East creates its own dictators who sometimes need to be removed, as much for the sake of the helpless people they torture and murder as for the political interests of the West.

Trump has welcomed el-Sissi and the Saudi king with open arms, if America were concerned about human rights, why didn't he start with those two monsters?

Funny that we only really hear about the government murdering and torturing its citizens when we want to invade. There are countries the world over that murder and torture prisoners but we only hear about the ones with oil supply lines.

Yes we were lied to about nuclear weapons, and most regret the loss of our brave men and women as a result, but what is done can't be undone. None of that however puts the West in the same league as the dictators of the Middle East, neither does it excuse terrorism. There is no comparison.

I think it very much puts us in their league and it doesn't excuse terrorism but causes it. They see us as terrorists and that's why they try to terrorise us.