[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Its only the extreme groups that think like this, most Muslims have no interest in underage girls, genital mutilation and other things mentioned in the video.

Your understanding of Islam is roughly equal to that of someone who’d equate the KKK to Christianity. I apologise if that appears rude, but from the looks of things you appear to care passionately about a subject, whilst you fail to fully understand.

I'm sorry but I don't think that is an equal correlation you make there. The KKK were not scattered across the globe, they were relatively small in number compared to the Muslims supporting many of these anarchic practices here and abroad.

No one could walk around openly anywhere in the West dressed in the hooded KKK getup. But we allow these women, whether through choice or otherwise, to walk around in their equally repulsive getups praising female subjugation and inferiority in a country where women are considered equal to men, including by Law. It is intended to insult and take the piss. There are occasions when no one, including women, should be allowed to wear what they want if doing so can be considered offensive.

This is not about understanding, I understand, to say otherwise is simply an attempt to undermine my opinion. The facts are simply that there is a difference in opinion between us on how widespread such beliefs and practices are in the West.

With the increasing numbers of women parading our streets loudly shouting their beliefs that women are second-class citizens right through to the increasing number of attacks across the West, such evidence strongly suggests such people are considerably more than a tiny minority.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I'm sorry but I don't think that is an equal correlation you make there. The KKK were not scattered across the globe, they were relatively small in number compared to the Muslims supporting many of these anarchic practices here and abroad.

No one could walk around openly anywhere in the West dressed in the hooded KKK getup. But we allow these women, whether through choice or otherwise, to walk around in their equally repulsive getups praising female subjugation and inferiority in a country where women are considered equal to men, including by Law. It is intended to insult and take the piss. There are occasions when no one, including women, should be allowed to wear what they want if doing so can be considered offensive.

This is not about understanding, I understand, to say otherwise is simply an attempt to undermine my opinion. The facts are simply that there is a difference in opinion between us on how widespread such beliefs and practices are in the West.

With the increasing numbers of women parading our streets loudly shouting their beliefs that women are second-class citizens right through to the increasing number of attacks across the West, such evidence strongly suggests such people are considerably more than a tiny minority.

One minute you are suggesting these women are repressed and in the next breath you’re saying they are taking the piss, which one is it?

Nobody, and certainly no religion, should be held above criticism. That's just plain wrong but when someone repeatedly homes in on the “problems with Muslims” and characterise them on the actions of a small percentage of individuals or that matter, a few countries that have an obnoxious culture, people will start to suspect that person is ignorant on the subject, Islamophobic or both. Don’t get me wrong; critical assessment of belief systems should always be encouraged but let’s not generalise our views on the lowest common denominator.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

One minute you are suggesting these women are repressed and in the next breath you’re saying they are taking the piss, which one is it?

They are also taking our jobs, and stealing our benefits.

The real question is how long will these people be everything and nothing and what is this weird muslim voodoo?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Withano

They are also taking our jobs, and stealing our benefits.

The real question is how long will these people be everything and nothing and what is this weird muslim voodoo?

All them Muslims cumin over ere and being all Muslim

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

One minute you are suggesting these women are repressed and in the next breath you’re saying they are taking the piss, which one is it?

In past discussions on the wearing of burkhas on here the usual crowd have argued the wearing of them should be allowed in The West as women should be able to wear what they want despite it being common knowledge that many have no choice.

People chose to focus on the ones that did choose to. Either way it shouldn't be tolerated here for the reasons I already mentioned.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

In past discussions on the wearing of burkhas on here the usual crowd have argued the wearing of them should be allowed in The West as women should be able to wear what they want despite it being common knowledge that many have no choice.

People chose to focus on the ones that did choose to. Either way it shouldn't be tolerated here for the reasons I already mentioned.

The ban in France has caused some real problems for those women forced to wear the veil by husbands, brothers or fathers. Because of this law, some women are no longer allowed out and kept like prisoners in their own homes.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The ban in France has caused some real problems for those women forced to wear the veil by husbands, brothers or fathers. Because of this law, some women are no longer allowed out and kept like prisoners in their own homes.

Naturally I don't support that but it comes to something when the general public of the host country have to care more about Muslim women than their own husbands and families. It speaks volumes and pretty much amounts to emotional blackmail.

It's clearly Muslim men, and women, that need educating not us. Men for obvious reasons and women to support each other and learn to stand up for themselves. They are in a much stronger position to do so in the West than in the depths of the Middle East.