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I see that as a strength personally, he's too diplomatic to resort to playground mockery.
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But she's the powerful and demanding leader this country needs....


She's probably too busy slurping Trump to do them though tbf.
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I see that as a strength personally, he's too diplomatic to resort to playground mockery.
I'd agree, except I believe the only way you can come over as a competent speaker of politics is to have a narcissistic/sociopathic personality. What you and me see is a genuine deep thinker, but we knew that long before he came into the spotlight. Its not us he needs to convince.
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These are my frustrations with Corbyn. I believe his heart is in the right place and he's a passionate man when it comes to the politics he supports but on PMQ we see no energy, which gives people the impression that he's weak and fallible.

Great guy but not a leading spokesman.
He does seem to be getting the hang of it and looking stronger but is it too late?
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I'd agree, except I believe the only way you can come over as a competent speaker of politics is to have a narcissistic/sociopathic personality. What you and me see is a genuine deep thinker, but we knew that long before he came into the spotlight. Its not us he needs to convince.
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I hope they do empty chair her.
She wanted this election but will not allow herself to be questioned by an audience live.

Since everyone else will, that will hopefully only fuel suspicion that she is not willing to be fully open with people.

Imagine if Corbyn,Farron or any other leader refused to do the debates,which have now been made part of UK General election media format.
Whether people like them or not.

She called this election, what on earth is she afraid of.
My supposition would be,she is worried her intended deceit of voters would be exposed in said debates.

Empty chair her, with preferably a notice saying the PM has nothing to say on any of the issues and refuses to be questioned.
Any other leader refusing would be rightly looked on with suspicion and ridiculed in the whole media.
This lady should be too.
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I hope they do empty chair her.
She wanted this election but will not allow herself to be questioned by an audience live.

Since everyone else will, that will hopefully only fuel suspicion that she is not willing to be fully open with people.

Imagine if Corbyn,Farron or any other leader refused to do the debates,which have now been made part of UK General election media format.
Whether people like them or not.

She called this election, what on earth is she afraid of.
My supposition would be,she is worried her intended deceit of voters would be exposed in said debates.

Empty chair her, with preferably a notice saying the PM has nothing to say on any of the issues and refuses to be questioned.
Any other leader refusing would be rightly looked on with suspicion and ridiculed in the whole media.
This lady should be too.
Legally, that would be a BIG mistake. Right?
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She'll be too busy talking to the people up and down the country.
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She'll be too busy talking to the people up and down the country.
So will the others,they will be there however, Brown,Cameron and Miliband managed to get round the Country and still do debates, so why shouldn't she.

Imagine what she'd be saying if she was willing but Corbyn wasn't and used an excuse that he would be going up and down the Country.

She'd get to probably reach directly far more people in televised debates.
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She'll be too busy talking to the people up and down the country.
Yes, and getting on with Brexit at the same time.
She still has a country to run, unlike a normal run up to an election there is less time to organise space for debates.
I would prefer her to do the debates as she could hold her own, but I can see her reasoning behind not doing them.
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Legally, that would be a BIG mistake. Right?
Obviously.
It is however what I will think as to her absence as I would any who refused to take part.

However yes, I could have expressed that better.
Well spotted.

I did actually smile when I saw your response.
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I would imagine that as she is the PM whose job it is to evoke article 50 and negotiate a Brexit deal the debate could just turn into a personal attack on May and possibly detract from the election discussion in general. People will just be directing everything at her and no one else would be able to get a word in.

I don't really see the problem and feel anti-Brexit voters just want a chance to try to interrogate her and undermine the process.

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Yes, and getting on with Brexit at the same time.
She still has a country to run, unlike a normal run up to an election there is less time to organise space for debates.
I would prefer her to do the debates as she could hold her own, but I can see her reasoning behind not doing them.
She won't be getting on with brexit at all.
She cannot, this election is to decide in part which Party gets to enact brexit and each Party's plans as to said brexit.
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She won't be getting on with brexit at all.
She cannot, this election is to decide in part which Party gets to enact brexit and each Party's plans as to said brexit.
Oh forgive me, and here is me thinking she had a meeting this very morning.
My eyes must have been deceiving me.
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Oh forgive me, and here is me thinking she had a meeting this very morning.
My eyes must have been deceiving me.
No need for unnecessary sarcasm.
Parliament is not dissolved yet, until then she leads a govt.
Once the campaign officially begins she like all others who were MPs will then be equally seeking election again.

So during the campaign she like all other leaders will be laying out plans for and after brexit.
She is now seeking a mandate for her plans as all other Parties are.

Meetings are just meetings,she cannot now do any more as to brexit until she persuades,if she in the end does,voters to back her plans in this election to now give her authority to proceed.
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No need for unnecessary sarcasm.
Parliament is not dissolved yet, until then she leads a govt.
Once the campaign officially begins she like all others who were MPs will then be equally seeking election again.

So during the campaign she like all other leaders will be laying out plans for and after brexit.
She is now seeking a mandate for her plans as all other Parties are.

Meetings are just meetings,she cannot now do any more as to brexit until she persuades,if she in the end does,voters to back her plans in this election to now give her authority to proceed.
Yes, as I say, she has more to do than the rest of the ' leaders'.
She has meetings she can't just cancel at a drop of the hat.
She is involved in an in depth meeting re Brexit, so she has less time to think about the where and when of debates.
As to the unnecessary sarcasm, well I can't help how you choose to read my post.
You know I don't go in for the infantile crap that goes on in the debates section, I prefer to keep it none personal.
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A lot of excuses are being made for May that wouldn't be made if she was from any other party.

She can spare a few hours to do a debate, the fact that she doesn't want to is revealing.
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Yes, as I say, she has more to do than the rest of the ' leaders'.
She has meetings she can't just cancel at a drop of the hat.
She is involved in an in depth meeting re Brexit, so she has less time to think about the where and when of debates.
As to the unnecessary sarcasm, well I can't help how you choose to read my post.
You know I don't go in for the infantile crap that goes on in the debates section, I prefer to keep it none personal.
She will not have meetings after Parliament is dissolved and during the campaign.
Brown and Cameron were also Prime Ministers but they did debates when they were.

The debates will be held during the campaign not now.

She's running scared of the debates pure and simple.
Why is anyone's guess but for me it is likely fear of being caught out on issues.

Make excuses all you like for her, for me there are none as I would be saying about any other leader refusing to take part.
She has something to a lot to hide in my view as to the finer details of her policies and plans.
Otherwise she'd be eager to debate them anywhere,anyhow and with anyone.
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She will not have meetings after Parliament is dissolved and during the campaign.
Brown and Cameron were also Prime Ministers but they did debates when they were.

The debates will be held during the campaign not now.

She's running scared of the debates pure and simple.
Why is anyone's guess but for me it is likely fear of being caught out on issues.

Make excuses all you like for her, for me there are none as I would be saying about any other leader refusing to take part.
She has something to a lot to hide in my view as to the finer details of her policies and plans.
Otherwise she'd be eager to debate them anywhere,anyhow and with anyone.

You would accuse her of running scared as you have issues with her and therefore an agenda. You may believe that but it does not make it so.

Even IF she had reasons to keep something under wraps at the moment, that is not the same as 'having something to hide' which is a deliberate attempt at making it sound sinister - some kind of Wrong-doing. That is all supposition on your part as you are biased against her.
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Obviously.
It is however what I will think as to her absence as I would any who refused to take part.

However yes, I could have expressed that better.
Well spotted.

I did actually smile when I saw your response.
Well, that makes me smile too.
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I don't really see the problem and feel anti-Brexit voters just want a chance to try to interrogate her and undermine the process.
I dont think you can claim that pro-brexit voters wouldnt like to know more about the ongoing process simply because you clearly dont. Its a historic moment for the country and most people, in and out, are interested to know more.
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Well, that makes me smile too.
Oh you still make me smile Livia and to re-think as to some things too.
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She will have plenty time once Parliament is dissolved, she called the election because there s period before negotiations start with Europe, she managed to visit a factory today I'm sure she can spare an hour one evening, she has apparently said she would consider doing an audience Q&a presumably with handpicked audience and questions
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