[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

This guy knows.....

Youtube video

Brilliant.

[Kizzy]

One question. based on the video.... What medication will cure a male but kill a female?

Is the irony of a non human being the focus of that vid accepted?

He lost me at south park...stupid flappy headed Canadian bear.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Severe appearance deficit instead of ugly - yes real common sense that.

There were some awful words used in the past such as mongols, cretins and spastics and the use of such words was phased out, and rightly so, but handicapped and many others used today are perfectly reasonable words.

Of course people shouldn't be able to just blatantly offend people with the use of offensive words but the replacement of perfectly acceptable words such as handicapped for physically defective is sheer stupidity. Defective is a horrible word - I would rather be called physically handicapped, if disabled, than physically defective. Another word increasingly being used is 'challenged' i.e. Physically challenged which I would put on a par with 'incapable' or 'useless' which personally I find much more offensive.

I agree with everything I've left. These were basically my points throughout the thread. Nobody is taking these hyper-PC people seriously apart from the bloke in the video, and perhaps you. Severe appearance deficit seems like a joke haha. It isnt common sense to call ugly people 'severe appearance deficit' which is why the phrase never coined on, I believe the speech is a few decades old.

And yes nobody wants to blatantly offend. PC people dont want to offend, non-PC people dont want to offend, everybody inbetween do not want to offend, you just repeated my point. It is because of this that language cant be due to PC culture, language is just common sense.

You too are policing language, and you're not PC? So this entire thread is getting a bit silly. You've even made suggestions on words that other people shouldnt use, I have a feeling the bloke in the video would label you as PC, but you're not, language has nothing to do with political correctness.

if you believe as a non-PC person that there are horrible and offensive words, its because there is a common sense approach to language. it doesn't make you PC to find it offensive when people call certain groups certain words, it is just common sense not to call them it.

[Jamie89]

I've always considered political correctness to just be people not wanting to cause offence, how that manifests itself will be different in different people, so some will find 'appearance deficit' less offensive than 'ugly' and some will find 'disabled' less offensive than 'spastic' etc, it's all political correctness, and which terms catch on is just down to general consensus, and common sense like Withano said. PC is just the thing that allows that dialogue to happen and that consensus to be reached, and anyone who's ever considered one particular word less offensive than another has adhered to it. Yes some people will have extreme ideas, and some people will try and force their opinions on others as to what terms should be used, but that's not down to political correctness itself, it's because some people are just like that, and that's the case for every side of everything so those people and extreme examples aren't representative of what PC generally is (taking the extreme of anything and representing it as the norm is a bizarre approach imo).

[Kizzy]

PC is a recent construct designed specifically to denigrate anyone with a question that people find difficult to answer, or a response to a statement in a meaningful way.

[DemolitionRed]

The man's a jerk. Does he honestly believe children with learning disabilities should be told they are "slow"?

The reasons we don't use word like "slow, ******, idiot dumb" is because society uses those words to insult anyone they don't like. Its the same with words like "imbecile" and " moron".

Cripple and spastic are just very outdated words but spastic in particular was used to insult perfectly able bodied people.

I think it gets silly when some medical professionals insist a Down Syndrome person is described as a none neurotypical person or a disabled person described as a vertically challenged person but I do think words like "learning disability" open up a wider scope of what that condition could be. People with learning disabilities are as broad as they are wide and a lot of people with LD are very gifted in certain areas, especially Autistic people, so its unfair and unnecessary to call such people slow.

[Tozzie]

The world has gone mad I can't believe I just read 2 pages of this thread I must have gone mad too or should that be mentally challenged? Chuffing bonkers. Call me what you like I.'ll get over it. PC.....pissing crazy

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

The world has gone mad I can't believe I just read 2 pages of this thread I must have gone mad too or should that be mentally challenged? Chuffing bonkers. Call me what you like I.'ll get over it. PC.....pissing crazy

Its ok, you're just bonkers.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Its ok, you're just bonkers.

BONKERS...............BONKERS...........HOW DARE YOU, I'm gonna report you to the PC brigade

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

BONKERS...............BONKERS...........HOW DARE YOU, I'm gonna report you to the PC brigade

The funny thing is, anyone who calls me bonkers is giving me a compliment because its doubtful they would call me that if they believed I had a mental illness.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

BONKERS...............BONKERS...........HOW DARE YOU, I'm gonna report you to the PC brigade

Hello, you have reached the PC brigade, there's nobody available to take your call right now please leave a message after the tone.....


BEEEEEEEEEEEP...

[Northern Monkey]

137,000 victims of fgm and not one prosecution is where political correctness gets you,Rotherham is also where it gets you.Can't investigate the muslims cos that's racist that is.

[calyman]

Political correctness mainly exists, not to "police" how others may define terms but to limit the implied bigotry, intolerance and ignorance in using words that at best offend and at worst, discriminate. We may have free speech but if we don't excercise respect for others while using it; then like children we must be told what is innapropriate language to use. I am old enough to remember a time when it was allowed to use words of hate and intolerance and I do not want to return to those times.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by calyman

Political correctness mainly exists, not to "police" how others may define terms but to limit the implied bigotry, intolerance and ignorance in using words that at best offend and at worst, discriminate. We may have free speech but if we don't excercise respect for others while using it; then like children we must be told what is innapropriate language to use. I am old enough to remember a time when it was allowed to use words of hate and intolerance and I do not want to return to those times.

Exactly. Like everything else "Political correctness" can be over done but that doesn't mean that everything Politically correct is the world gone crazy either.

[the truth]

Unfortunately political correctness is perverted often to falsely accuse others of racism or sexism. These slanderous and false accusations should be treated as serious crimes too. To even up the balance and get back to the real arguments and the facts of the matter. PC tends to overly protect some groups and leaves the obvious white male as the only beast in the room that everyone can slander

[Kizzy]

Seeing as PC is being leveled as a slur I'm going to take being accused of being 'PC' as a really offensive insult now as that is the obvious intention, it's a snide way of denigrating anyones view as total rubbish as it does not conform.

I find it highly offensive and oppressive.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Seeing as PC is being leveled as a slur I'm going to take being accused of being 'PC' as a really offensive insult now as that is the obvious intention, it's a snide way of denigrating anyones view as total rubbish as it does not conform.

I find it highly offensive and oppressive.

Im offended by this

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

Im offended by this

PC gone mad

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

PC gone mad

what do you mean by mad grr....

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by the truth

Unfortunately political correctness is perverted often to falsely accuse others of racism or sexism. These slanderous and false accusations should be treated as serious crimes too. To even up the balance and get back to the real arguments and the facts of the matter. PC tends to overly protect some groups and leaves the obvious white male as the only beast in the room that everyone can slander

Ahhhh so... this is all starting to come together now. You don't like being called sexist for your... err... sexist views about women, so you want to label all of it "PC gone mad", so that you can share your odd issues with women with everyone and not be called out on those views?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ahhhh so... this is all starting to come together now. You don't like being called sexist for your... err... sexist views about women, so you want to label all of it "PC gone mad", so that you can share your odd issues with women with everyone and not be called out on those views?

ah the old slander and false accusation just for looking for some balance. men have an opinion its sexist, women laugh about men dying from having their penis cut off and a room full of women laugh in front of millions on national tv
absolute rubbish...total hypocrisy total double standards. this is why feminism is now the joke it is

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

ah the old slander and false accusation just for looking for some balance. men have an opinion its sexist, women laugh about men dying from having their penis cut off and a room full of women laugh in front of millions on national tv
absolute rubbish...total hypocrisy total double standards. this is why feminism is now the joke it is

Tbf, as far as feminism goes, you must realise your opinions are starkly different to the norm?
Nobody is calling these women feminists apart from you... and you wonder why you have a distorted view on feminism compared to everybody around you?..

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

Tbf, as far as feminism goes, you must realise your opinions are starkly different to the norm?
Nobody is calling these women feminists apart from you... and you wonder why you have a distorted view on feminism compared to everybody around you?..

youre simply lying all the time...no one is calling germaine greer a feminist? really?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre simply lying all the time...no one is calling germaine greer a feminist? really?

Shes a liberationist, and an irrational one.