[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The Conservatives again attacking another group of people, does this party honestly ever do anything positive? It's all negative attacks on individual groups all of the time, I honestly don't get how they get off on it, or more importantly why a large chunk of the public get off on it aswell by voting for this disgraceful party.

Disgraceful party indeed,good description.

We hear the argument richer pensioners don't need it so now,after years of it being right they got it with a Conservative promise of them continuing.
It's fine now since the Cons have changed their minds.

Now it should only go to poorer pensioners.
Scratch deep below the service, this will mean complex means testing,more form filling as to rooting out any savings and checks on individuals.
The cost likely outweighing any savings,with many vulnerable slipping through whatever supposed safety net,this disgraceful govt has in place,if any at all.

Now this sudden concern for the poor,this govt.set up ESA with 2 groups,the support group and the work related activity group, for people deemed sick and disabled.

On a whim this govt despite admitting those in the wrag group were considered too ill or disabled to work for likely a minimum of 6 months.
Voted to slash £25+ a week from those in the wrag group.

Disgraceful,disgusting and shameful and very little outcry from Con supporters as to that.

You paint the right picture in your post of the Cons,I'm ashamed I ever counted myself a supporter of them in my late teens.

Never again, not this heartless,cruel and hardline set up the Cons have in place now with this 100% deceitful waste of space leader Mrs May.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Disgraceful party indeed,good description.

We hear the argument richer pensioners don't need it so now,after years of it being right they got it with a Conservative promise of them continuing.
It's fine now since the Cons have changed their minds.

Now it should only go to poorer pensioners.
Scratch deep below the service, this will mean complex means testing,more form filling as to rooting out any savings and checks on individuals.
The cost likely outweighing any savings,with many vulnerable slipping through whatever supposed safety net,this disgraceful govt has in place,if any at all.

Now this sudden concern for the poor,this govt.set up ESA with 2 groups,the support group and the work related activity group, for people deemed sick and disabled.

On a whim this govt despite admitting those in the wrag group were considered too ill or disabled to work for likely a minimum of 6 months.
Voted to slash £25+ a week from those in the wrag group.

Disgraceful,disgusting and shameful and very little outcry from Con supporters as to that.

You paint the right picture in your post of the Cons,I'm ashamed I ever counted myself a supporter of them in my late teens.

Never again, not this heartless,cruel and hardline set up the Cons have in place now with this 100% deceitful waste of space leader Mrs May.

I think Joey that we all got spoilt in this country under Labour, and now we're acting out because we as a country are bored, but I do think that history will look back at this time as moronic for allowing such a spiteful party to rule like this for so long, just like Margaret Thatcher's time is looked on badly by most people.

[Cherry Christmas]

Scottish Torys have said Scottish pensioners won't be means tested, only English and Welsh ... I guess only the English and Welsh "wealthy" pensioners don't need it

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Scottish Torys have said Scottish pensioners won't be means tested, only English and Welsh ... I guess only the English and Welsh "wealthy" pensioners don't need it

Apparently that's down to their climate :/

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think Joey that we all got spoilt in this country under Labour, and now we're acting out because we as a country are bored, but I do think that history will look back at this time as moronic for allowing such a spiteful party to rule like this for so long, just like Margaret Thatcher's time is looked on badly by most people.

Thatcher was a saint compared to this lot. The problem is, those who did well under Thatcher, the ones who bought their council houses for a pittance and sold them years later for a kings ransom, will always be nostalgic about the Tory party.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Thatcher was a saint compared to this lot. The problem is, those who did well under Thatcher, the ones who bought their council houses for a pittance and sold them years later for a kings ransom, will always be nostalgic about the Tory party.

Let's not get carried away DR...

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Let's not get carried away DR...

Hehe! well she was born and incubated from the sperm of the devil but everything that came after her and rode on her neoliberalist ideals knowing that there was little left in the pot for the working class Brits.

My parents bought my grans council flat in West London for £6k and that flat is now worth over £half a million. That area used to be swarming with working class people but since its been sold off, the working class have been moved on and its now considered an upmarket area for professional people.

Its ludicrous that working class and most middle class people can't now afford to buy those properties back.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Thatcher was a saint compared to this lot. The problem is, those who did well under Thatcher, the ones who bought their council houses for a pittance and sold them years later for a kings ransom, will always be nostalgic about the Tory party.

My problem with Thatcher is that she honestly never cared that she treated the North like ****.

I don't live up North, and hell I wasn't even born when Thatcher was in charge, but I honestly can't get over that she basically allowed those Mining Strikes to go on knowing that the workers were starving and tired because they was being mistreated, and people honestly think that Labour or Lib Dems are worse than this cold hearted party? But I'll agree with you that the current Tory party is worse as I'm currently living through their period and they're effecting me.