[Denver]

Just on the news They have stopped 5 terrorist attacks in a matter of months and 18 since 2013.

Unfortunately they couldnt stop Mondays.

[Glenn.]

Too busy 'watching' him that's why

[Glenn.]

5 though. That's shocking

[Niamh.]

Well look they must be doing something right, these kind of attacks are going to be really difficult to find out about and stop

[Scarlett.]

It's one of those things where if they do their job well, we wont be able to tell.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Chewy

It's one of those things where if they do their job well, we wont be able to tell.

well yeah exactly

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah it's not a bad record.2 out of 18 slipped through.

[MTVN]

Think the stat on the Daily Politics today was that MI5 currently have over 500 operations going on concerning over 3000 people of interest. The sheer scale of the threat is incredible

[Shaun]

They do great work but there's always room for improvement, sadly.

[the truth]

how many of these 3000 are still being allowed to travel ?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Think the stat on the Daily Politics today was that MI5 currently have over 500 operations going on concerning over 3000 people of interest. The sheer scale of the threat is incredible

It's crazy.People don't understand the scale of the problem.There are Jihadis on the streets in some of our towns recruiting people who are going abroad.Many of our prisons are terrorist recruitment and training camps.White lads growing big beards and converting to islam so they don't get beaten or killed.It's a huge problem.
I saw a vid on Youtube of a group of muslims converting a kid to islam.
People don't understand.
One reason for that is because MI5 are doing a good job but another is that the media are hiding this stuff.The left wing press won't tell us anything about it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It's crazy.People don't understand the scale of the problem.There are Jihadis on the streets in some of our towns recruiting people who are going abroad.Many of our prisons are terrorist recruitment and training camps.White lads growing big beards and converting to islam so they don't get beaten or killed.It's a huge problem.
I saw a vid on Youtube of a group of muslims converting a kid to islam.
People don't understand.
One reason for that is because MI5 are doing a good job but another is that the media are hiding this stuff.The left wing press won't tell us anything about it.

people are aware theyre also aware political correctness has brought us to this nightmare situation and that the vst majority of hardline jihadi soldiers are allowed to return to britain...sadly its students who are least aware, theyve been brainwashed with PC doctrine and diversity and idealistic nonsense which simply doesnt take into account all the immediate facts .....the other awkward truth being avoided is the FACT the police cant do their jobs as over half their budget is spent on ancient historical sexual investigations...why is there no time limit on them the way there is on most other crimes or accusations...all of that is also down to you guessed it political correctness

[Livia]

Only 5? I'm surprsied...

[Tom4784]

The problem is that terror attacks as a whole are devolving, back in the days of 9/11 attacks were full on operations involving multiple parties and that's why a lot of attacks post 9/11 were foiled because there was always a weak link or a communication error that thankfully led to the terrorists' capture but now terrorism consists of getting into a car and running people down or buying a gun and shooting people or making a homemade bomb. All three things require no real planning or communication with other parties and thus it makes them difficult to prevent.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Too busy 'watching' him that's why

I don't get why they say stuff like that as it makes them look incompetent that they didn't stop him before he bombed the Concert.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It's crazy.People don't understand the scale of the problem.There are Jihadis on the streets in some of our towns recruiting people who are going abroad.Many of our prisons are terrorist recruitment and training camps.White lads growing big beards and converting to islam so they don't get beaten or killed.It's a huge problem.
I saw a vid on Youtube of a group of muslims converting a kid to islam.
People don't understand.
One reason for that is because MI5 are doing a good job but another is that the media are hiding this stuff.The left wing press won't tell us anything about it.

BIB, there's a left wing press in this country?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The problem is that terror attacks as a whole are devolving, back in the days of 9/11 attacks were full on operations involving multiple parties and that's why a lot of attacks post 9/11 were foiled because there was always a weak link or a communication error that thankfully led to the terrorists' capture but now terrorism consists of getting into a car and running people down or buying a gun and shooting people or making a homemade bomb. All three things require no real planning or communication with other parties and thus it makes them difficult to prevent.

I agree with everything except the bit about making a bomb. It's not easy to make a bomb... and a lot harder to make or get hold of a detonator.

[Saph]

I wonder what they were

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The problem is that terror attacks as a whole are devolving, back in the days of 9/11 attacks were full on operations involving multiple parties and that's why a lot of attacks post 9/11 were foiled because there was always a weak link or a communication error that thankfully led to the terrorists' capture but now terrorism consists of getting into a car and running people down or buying a gun and shooting people or making a homemade bomb. All three things require no real planning or communication with other parties and thus it makes them difficult to prevent.

Atleast seven people were involved in this.Probably a terror cell.
The bomb making skills are straight out of the middle east.It's not easy to get the equipment,chemicals,mix them correctly and fit a push button detonator.It takes specialist skills.Chances are Abedi didn't make this and there's possibly more.
This was a sophisticated attack.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree with everything except the bit about making a bomb. It's not easy to make a bomb... and a lot harder to make or get hold of a detonator.

Beat me.