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22-05-2017, 09:02 AM | #251 | |||
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Well I believe in God and am not ashamed of it in any way neither should I be,I agree with Cherie,people believe what they want,they dont need opinions shoving down their throats,that is what causes the grief people thinking they know the truth and forcing it on others.
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22-05-2017, 09:23 AM | #252 | ||
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The thing is, though, interpretations of the bible that consider it to be metaphorical and allegorical are not part of any major organised religion... so the original intention of bible stories when written are largely irrelevant to the legitimacy of modern organised religion. I mean, really the best you can say is that if the original authors were to time travel to the present, they'd be like "Oh **** people actually took our morality tales literally?? LOL wups!"
I guess like... Tolkien and JK Rowling travelling 2000 years into the future and finding people fighting over who was the true great savior; Frodo Baggins or Harry Potter. |
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22-05-2017, 07:02 PM | #253 | |||
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So what if some people believe i ghosts, hows that any different from believing in angels? live and let live is basically what believers with no specific religion do isn't it?
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22-05-2017, 07:42 PM | #254 | |||
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The way I look at it is; to bring together and have an obedient mass of people, they needed universal teaching. Religions writing gave people a moral compass/signpost between right and wrong. Just as May makes the masses believe that they are looking out for their people, the bible had the masses believing in good versus evil. For me, the bible or any religion is just like politics... its all about mind control.
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22-05-2017, 07:46 PM | #255 | |||
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22-05-2017, 08:25 PM | #256 | |||
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22-05-2017, 09:13 PM | #257 | ||
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I'm reading the the Bible now.I'm not religious.I just find it fecking fascinating.If you're into history and how people thought thousands of years ago i think it's a great read.Specially the Old Testament.Yes it's just stories but many of the places are real.It's also great if you're into ancient Egypt.This was written in the time of the New Kingdom.Bare in mind that Egypt and the pyramids etc etc were all ancient by then.Infact more time had passed from the pyramids being built than from the creation of the bible to now.Even though the characters were probably made up it gives you an insight into how people viewed Egypt all those years ago.
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22-05-2017, 09:33 PM | #258 | ||
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Anyway.Our universe is just the tip of the iceberg.There had to be a universe in which to create our universe. |
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23-05-2017, 07:51 PM | #259 | |||
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That wasn't clear tbf
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23-05-2017, 09:13 PM | #260 | ||
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25-05-2017, 11:34 AM | #261 | |||
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Ahhh right. I was told that I was accused of Islamaphobia while I was away. And of course, Kissy is the oracle of whatis, and what isn't, Islamaphobic... because she.... no, remind me why again? I would remind you that Islamic terrorist were responsible for the death of my husband so my judgement against Islamic terrorists is coloured. Also, I've just returned from Israel where Islamic Palastinians threw a party after the Manchester bomb killed and maimed children. Balancing that out, I don't accept that all Muslims are terrorists, not at all. It's a fact though, that right now, all terrorists are Muslim. So thanks for the baiting... it made me laugh out loud it was so cynical and expected. Last edited by Livia; 25-05-2017 at 11:34 AM. |
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25-05-2017, 12:01 PM | #262 | |||
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I dont think it's fair to call it 'crap' tbh,some people get great comfort from religion,I am one of them believe it or not.
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25-05-2017, 12:35 PM | #263 | |||
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Sorry but that's just my opinion on it, having been brought up with it force fed to me through school
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25-05-2017, 12:47 PM | #264 | ||
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25-05-2017, 12:56 PM | #265 | |||
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No need to be sorry Niamh,each to their own,I never force it on other people it's a personal thing.
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25-05-2017, 01:34 PM | #266 | ||
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My problem with people taking the story of creation/Genesis literally is that much of it,Infact most of it contradicts things that are known today with evidence to back them up and the timeline. Also the fact that it is so earth centric when the reality is that the earth is little more than a spec of dust in the context of our universe and is probably not all that special. Why would the word of god only inform us of our miniscule existence and nothing beyond our planet. It is imo because this is a Jewish story with influences from even older religions written by mankind to try and understand the then totally unexplained. As for the creation of the universe it is my opinion that humanity is way too small to ever understand it beyond the aftermath of the big bang. |
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25-05-2017, 01:48 PM | #267 | |||
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25-05-2017, 02:01 PM | #268 | ||
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Exactly.I have pondered these questions myself and gone into that never ending mental wormhole and came to the conclusion that the usable parts of the human mind can never comprehend it.Maybe if we keep trying then in another million years we might evolve to use the other parts of our brain and understand a little more.
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25-05-2017, 02:03 PM | #269 | ||
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some can it all literal some take is symbollic....some a bit of both Its interesting to note that the majority of great scientists were religious and saw no contradiction, they saw the 2 worlds as seperate subjects. They were also smart enough to know neither the Bible nor science has all the answers and they dont always have to be in conflict with each other. The universe is way beyond our comprehension and always will be but its still fascinating and its great that humanity will always remain curious , open minded and try to learn more |
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25-05-2017, 02:08 PM | #270 | |||
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https://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html But yes I agree with you that whatever the truth is we're not capable of understanding it, but this is why I don't believe in religions (all them) idea of a god, all the silly rules that seem to go with it just seem ridiculous to me, that a being with such power would be that pernickety and ridiculous to care whether you fancy men or fancy women or whatever or whether you eat pork or only fish on Fridays etc etc
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25-05-2017, 02:12 PM | #271 | ||
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25-05-2017, 02:16 PM | #272 | |||
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You wonder why it's brought up? Seriously? If Jesus didn't say a word about Homosexuality then why are so many religions against gay marriage and gay relationships in general? Mystery solved, you're welcome.
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25-05-2017, 05:04 PM | #273 | ||
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Perhaps our brains may grow larger again the more we try work this stuff out? And yeah i would say all these rules are man made. |
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25-03-2024, 08:58 PM | #274 | |||
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Interesting
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25-03-2024, 09:08 PM | #275 | |||
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Wow blast from the past
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