[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Dont forget that garden tax Corbyn never mentioned which could triple council tax that has to be paid,wonder how many more gems like that he has on his ipad.

According to those who have done the math 1.83% of value would raise the same sums as Council tax leaving 83% of households better off.

"I welcome any proposals which move the burden of taxation towards developers and large land owners who have made huge profits out of rising land values in the capital and away from many hard working people on lower and middle incomes." The land tax was not only winning backing on the Left of the party but also among more moderate Lib-Dem MPs

Its targetting people that own acres of spare land, Kaz. You make it sound like the tories' bedroom tax or something haha.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Withano

Its targetting people that own acres of spare land, Kaz. You make it sound like the tories' bedroom tax or something haha.

I've given up Withano.

Despite all the evidence,hardship of austerity over the last 7 years which was supposed to be for 5 years max.
Now going to go on for another 5 years again.
Despite the humiliating testing and heartless policies towards people sick and disabled.
It seems in the UK there are those who don't care a jot for that cruelty and failure.

Also clear,is everything Labour propose or have done is and was wrong.
While the Cons can fail,at to the debt level,borrow,keep on with failed austerity measures,even get round to bringing back a hunting bill as to foxes,Deers and hare coursing.

Yet get pats on the back for all that failure.With support posing like a waterfall.

In this election, voters voting for this truly horrible cruel woman,warrant all they will get as to more failure from her deceptive policies.
I really despair but see no point at all myself anyway, in trying to reason.

Let that all happen.
I have never ever liked or trusted Mrs May since coming across her.
She is a total liar.
I make a lot of judgements on people the way they would treat or have animals treated.
This woman is truly vile.

Really it leaves one in despair at the way there are voters who would permit and reward failure and allow suffering to take place even more towards the sick and disabled.
Worse still that some will defend such policies, or say the policies are wrong but then will vote for more of them.
Really a sad indictment on UK politics.
For me personally a disgrace but reasoning seems near impossible now.
So I give up.

I am voting Labour to hopefully end this last 7 years failure and heartlessness across the board..
Hoping too,I never give any tiny chance of a hunting bill being legalised again too.
I'd hope voters see the light but reading things here I doubt that completely now.

The Cons sure know how to con and get away with it too.
This rotten deceitful leader they have,a total perfectionist at lying and deceit too.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've given up Withano.

Despite all the evidence,hardship of austerity over the last 7 years which was supposed to be for 5 years max.
Now going to go on for another 5 years again.
Despite the humiliating testing and heartless policies towards people sick and disabled.
It seems in the UK there are those who don't care a jot for that cruelty and failure.

Also clear,is everything Labour propose or have done is and was wrong.
While the Cons can fail,at to the debt level,borrow,keep on with failed austerity measures,even get round to bringing back a hunting bill as to foxes,Deers and hare coursing.

Yet get pats on the back for all that failure.With support posing like a waterfall.

In this election, voters voting for this truly horrible cruel woman,warrant all they will get as to more failure from her deceptive policies.
I really despair but see no point at all myself anyway, in trying to reason.

Let that all happen.
I have never ever liked or trusted Mrs May since coming across her.
She is a total liar.
I make a lot of judgements on people the way they would treat or have animals treated.
This woman is truly vile.

Really it leaves one in despair at the way there are voters who would permit and reward failure and allow suffering to take place even more towards the sick and disabled.
Worse still that some will defend such policies, or say the policies are wrong but then will vote for more of them.
Really a sad indictment on UK politics.
For me personally a disgrace but reasoning seems near impossible now.
So I give up.

I am voting Labour to hopefully end this last 7 years failure and heartlessness across the board..
Hoping too,I never give any tiny chance of a hunting bill being legalised again too.
I'd hope voters see the light but reading things here I doubt that completely now.

The Cons sure know how to con and get away with it too.
This rotten deceitful leader they have,a total perfectionist at lying and deceit too.

I completely agree Joey, there are some excellent policies going to go to waste for the sake of believing May is strong and stable.
The papers don't help. Corporations will be hit hard under Labour, and so they bloody well should at long last. Their media outlets are simply leading people on to believe that they too will be effected, which is just not the case.

The way I see it is, its a battle between great policies and smeer campaigns versus terrible policies with corporate backing and funding.
The terrible policies is winning at the moment, but more and more people are fact checking the papers

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Withano

I completely agree Joey, there are some excellent policies going to go to waste for the sake of believing May is strong and stable.
The papers don't help. Corporations will be hit hard under Labour, and so they bloody well should at long last. Their media outlets are simply leading people on to believe that they too will be effected, which is just not the case.

The way I see it is, its a battle between great policies and smeer campaigns versus terrible policies with corporate backing and funding.
The terrible policies is winning at the moment, but more and more people are fact checking the papers

Indeed,it becomes depressing really.
Really sad for politics and moreso for the United Kingdom as a whole.
Especially those at the lowest end,who are weaker,poorer,sick and disabled.
Then this govt claims tthe UK to be one of the richest and strongest economies in the World.

Yet treats it's sick,disabled and weakest like 5th rate citizens.
Shocking and a total disgrace,to me anyway.
Really shameful.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've given up Withano.

Despite all the evidence,hardship of austerity over the last 7 years which was supposed to be for 5 years max.
Now going to go on for another 5 years again.
Despite the humiliating testing and heartless policies towards people sick and disabled.
It seems in the UK there are those who don't care a jot for that cruelty and failure.

Also clear,is everything Labour propose or have done is and was wrong.
While the Cons can fail,at to the debt level,borrow,keep on with failed austerity measures,even get round to bringing back a hunting bill as to foxes,Deers and hare coursing.

Yet get pats on the back for all that failure.With support posing like a waterfall.

In this election, voters voting for this truly horrible cruel woman,warrant all they will get as to more failure from her deceptive policies.
I really despair but see no point at all myself anyway, in trying to reason.

Let that all happen.
I have never ever liked or trusted Mrs May since coming across her.
She is a total liar.
I make a lot of judgements on people the way they would treat or have animals treated.
This woman is truly vile.

Really it leaves one in despair at the way there are voters who would permit and reward failure and allow suffering to take place even more towards the sick and disabled.
Worse still that some will defend such policies, or say the policies are wrong but then will vote for more of them.
Really a sad indictment on UK politics.
For me personally a disgrace but reasoning seems near impossible now.
So I give up.

I am voting Labour to hopefully end this last 7 years failure and heartlessness across the board..
Hoping too,I never give any tiny chance of a hunting bill being legalised again too.
I'd hope voters see the light but reading things here I doubt that completely now.

The Cons sure know how to con and get away with it too.
This rotten deceitful leader they have,a total perfectionist at lying and deceit too.

It's as simple as this Joey people will champion the people they like,some like May others like Corbyn,no amount of trying to push ones opinions on to others will change their minds unless they are willing to do so,I am not overkeen on May,much prefered Cameron,I don't dislike Corbyn,but like you with May,I find something untrustworthy about him, it's just different situations for different people,no one is conning me ,TM has made a bit of a balls up with the manifesto,but for me she is still the better option,but it wont affect me too much as I will not be voting due to the fox hunting issue,If Corbyn wins I hope he is everything you deem him to be.