[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Also take into account he isn't exactly liked by the public either. It's hardly trendy or edgy.

Tbf he does seem to have quite a bit of support on DS and Social Media, his in fact the very definition of controversial rather than unpopular.

And tbf they've mainly got it in their heads that his a Trump supporter rather than knowing what his actually like on here, or even judging him fully on the fact that he's just a normal guy who's playing a game in the house, his not being malicious.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Locke.

He moves around a lot, but I believe it was said that the 3 girlfriends he cheated on was during his high school days. He was young.

It was and that was years ago and you can regret and feel remorse years later (doesn't mean we condone it) you can make loads of mistakes when you are young.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It was and that was years ago and you can regret and feel remorse years later (doesn't mean we condone it) you can make loads of mistakes when you are young.

Yes. We all make mistakes when we're young. No one is perfect.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Yes lets blame the victims instead. Wow.

Maybe the second victim knew about the first victim..what would that make her then?
Just sounds like a load of young people having fun to me.
If they all lived in the same area it must have been a very large area for none of them to know what was going on.

[T*]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It was and that was years ago and you can regret and feel remorse years later (doesn't mean we condone it) you can make loads of mistakes when you are young.

girl he said he never felt guilty about anything though

[Denver]

I am sorry but the he was young so is allowed to cheat argument is bull****

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by T*

girl he said he never felt guilty about anything though

That's not true though is it

[Denver]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Maybe the second victim knew about the first victim..what would that make her then?
Just sounds like a load of young people having fun to me.
If they all lived in the same area it must have been a very large area for none of them to know what was going on.

People like to believe they learn from mistakes

[T*]

Originally Posted by Firewire

That's not true though is it

Idk, he said it, not me

[Jake.]

Thing is you can't expect people to fully take a step back and try and see him as a "standard" housemate.. He's always going to be "Raph from TiBB". I certainly don't condone cheating, but I don't condone looking for any excuse to jump on the bandwagon of hate either. As someone who's met him I can vouch for him being a great guy who has changed from those days. It's not like coming out is notorious for being a walk in the park either, is it?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by T*

girl he said he never felt guilty about anything though

In his VT...

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

This doesn't really excuse him cheating though

So are you saying he was the only one that knew he was playing the field at the time, nobody else in school knew who was doing who...hardly likely.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I respect that he's a valuable member that has done a lot on the forum, and is pursuing his dream but that doesn't exempt one from criticism.

"The right twats" haven't acted up yet, when they do I'm sure they will be criticised all the same

Tbf this wasn't exactly Raph's doing either, it was a task set out to humiliate alot of the Housemates and he used a tactic to try and save himself with the Housemates.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Maybe the second victim knew about the first victim..what would that make her then?
Just sounds like a load of young people having fun to me.
If they all lived in the same area it must have been a very large area for none of them to know what was going on.

Still a victim as he cheated on her.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by T*

girl he said he never felt guilty about anything though

Thats where the whole thing about people just waiting to take a dig at him comes into play, you're all ignoring the fact hes repeatedly said hes remorseful to us just so you can keep this up

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

So are you saying he was the only one that knew he was playing the field at the time, nobody else in school knew who was doing who...hardly likely.

Sorry but what's this got to do with anything?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Thats where the whole thing about people just waiting to take a dig at him comes into play, you're all ignoring the fact hes repeatedly said hes remorseful to us just so you can keep this up

So we are meant to take his friends words for it?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I'm pale now thanks mock

I didn't mean to single you out on anything if I have.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So we are meant to take his friends words for it?

It's the most reliable stuff you'll get

[Jason.]

Not the "young" excuse being thrown around when polyamorous Jade was branded a slut when she was only a year older than Raph

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Thing is you can't expect people to fully take a step back and try and see him as a "standard" housemate.. He's always going to be "Raph from TiBB". I certainly don't condone cheating, but I don't condone looking for any excuse to jump on the bandwagon of hate either. As someone who's met him I can vouch for him being a great guy who has changed from those days. It's not like coming out is notorious for being a walk in the park either, is it?

I feel like him being a member hasn't made as much of a difference as people are making out. The members who seem not like him very much don't tend to support housemates like him.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Adam.

People like to believe they learn from mistakes

Maybe at the time he didn't think of it as a mistake, or hurting anyone, then as you grow up you mature and see things differently.
I am only playing devils advocate here, I don't know Raph, all I know is he is young and I like what I see of his personality on BB.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Thats where the whole thing about people just waiting to take a dig at him comes into play, you're all ignoring the fact hes repeatedly said hes remorseful to us just so you can keep this up

not really? If you were a viewer that didn't look at this forum then you'd be thinking 'is this the real him in the house? Or is it part of his gameplay because it's not what he said in his VT...'

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Drew.

It's the most reliable stuff you'll get

I will wait till he admits in national TV until then it is hearsay

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I feel like him being a member hasn't made as much of a difference as people are making out. The members who seem not like him very much don't tend to support housemates like him.

But the members who don't like him very much are waiting on the edges of their seats for him to slip up because it's Raph