[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

By the way,



ARE you aware how close you are edging towards white supremacist rhetoric?

Only in your super sensitive PC mind. That's just a 'polite' way of trying to shut me down again with 'racist' allegations.

I am just trying to demonstrate that these terrorists have both physical and emotional ties to their parents homeland - that is blatantly obvious by their actions, and it wouldn't be like deporting them to somewhere where they had no links or sense of belonging. Not they would even deserve that consideration.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Deported to where if they were born here; and why would those countries want them.



So I'm assuming you agree that all criminals who are British born, or have British born parents or grandparents, should be deported from other countries back to the UK?

If they commit heinous crime then yes of course. It most definitely should work across the board.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Only in your super sensitive PC mind. That's just a 'polite' way of trying to shut me down again with 'racist' allegations.

I am just trying to demonstrate that these terrorists have both physical and emotional ties to their parents homeland - that is blatantly obvious by their actions, and it wouldn't be like deporting them to somewhere where they had no links or sense of belonging. Not they would even deserve that consideration.

When you put someone on a plane out of this country, you need to have agreement of the receiving country else they will be refused entry to the destination country and sent straight back.

I could say I had an affinity with Australia ... you must therefore let me in .... not going to happen

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Only in your super sensitive PC mind. That's just a 'polite' way of trying to shut me down again with 'racist' allegations.

I am just trying to demonstrate that these terrorists have both physical and emotional ties to their parents homeland - that is blatantly obvious by their actions, and it wouldn't be like deporting them to somewhere where they had no links or sense of belonging. Not they would even deserve that consideration.

It's quite simple if they are British,lock them up.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

When you put someone on a plane out of this country, you need to have agreement of the receiving country else they will be refused entry to the destination country and sent straight back.

I could say I had an affinity with Australia ... you must therefore let me in .... not going to happen

If dual citizenship was a condition of migration - the other country could not refuse to take them surely.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

If dual citizenship was a condition of migration - the other country could not refuse to take them surely.

Brillo's solution to Britain's terror problems: "Change the entire world and international law to suit Britain!!"

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Brillo's solution to Britain's terror problems: "Change the entire world and international law to suit Britain!!"

I think many Western countries may well start to think along those lines in the future as it would make sense and be in their best interests given the way things are going.

And probably not just Western countries either - people want to protect their citizens and as terrorism increases around the workd it may be a way forward for everyone.

If European countries for instance are going to be forced by the EU to take in millions of people from other parts of the world they need something to protect their current citizens from a potential future clash of cultural and religous views that may lead to even more terrorist activity.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Isn't it obvious - where their allegencies lie and it clearly isn't with Britain. Home is where the heart is and the terrorists' hearts belong elsewhere.

They hate Britain and everything it represents so how can anyone believe Britain is their home. They don't want us and we don't want them.

But you can't force a country that they're not a citizen of to take a criminal, that's ridiculous. If the american police phoned up Britain and said "hey we have this serial killer here who's granny was British and we don't want him anymore so we're sending him over there" What do you think "Britain" would say? lol or would you all have a choice because you're better countries then them desert ones over there?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But you can't force a country that they're not a citizen of to take a criminal, that's ridiculous. If the american police phoned up Britain and said "hey we have this serial killer here who's granny was British and we don't want him anymore so we're sending him over there" What do you think "Britain" would say? lol or would you all have a choice because you're better countries then them desert ones over there?

As already mentioned in the thread if they had dual citizenship as a condition of migration we could.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

As already mentioned in the thread if they had dual citizenship as a condition of migration we could.

But they don't so that's moot point

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But they don't so that's moot point

They could do in the future - and maybe it could be done retrospectively.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

They could do in the future - and maybe it could be done retrospectively.

and how far down the lines are you suggesting?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

and how far down the lines are you suggesting?

As I said definitely parents and maybe grandparents. It would then place some accountability and responsibility on parents etc to do their best to ensure that they and their children respect and value the country they chose to live in/were born into. What's wrong with that.

[Toy Soldier]

What you're suggesting is logistically impossible / is never going to happen, Brillo... whether you think it's the best idea in the world or not, it's complete fantasy. It's up there with "We could build a prison colony on Mars and send them all there!". I feel like you probably need to let it go.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

As I said definitely parents and maybe grandparents. It would then place some accountability and responsibility on parents etc to do their best to ensure that they and their children respect and value the country they chose to live in/were born into. What's wrong with that.

For every nationality living in Britain or just the brown ones? And presumably all the countries that have have British immigrants would do the same to them then?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What you're suggesting is logistically impossible / is never going to happen, Brillo... whether you think it's the best idea in the world or not, it's complete fantasy. It's up there with "We could build a prison colony on Mars and send them all there!". I feel like you probably need to let it go.

Hardly - how can you compare dual citizenship with a prison colony on Mars. Dual citizenship is something that already exists, and there is no reason why it could not apply to migrants as well. The other is Star Trek.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

For every nationality living in Britain or just the brown ones? And presumably all the countries that have have British immigrants would do the same to them then?

I already stated in a question asked but TS that it should apply across the board not just to 'brown ones' - a bit below the belt for you Niamh.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I already stated in a question asked but TS that it should apply across the board not just to 'brown ones' - a bit below the belt for you Niamh.

Maybe so, I just find some of the comments in this thread and the other one discussing this subject so hysterical and awful, I'm really shocked tbh

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Maybe so, I just find some of the comments in this thread and the other one discussing this subject so hysterical and awful, I'm really shocked tbh

These are difficult times - we are all angry.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

These are difficult times - we are all angry.

Yes that's understandable but you can't punish people because of their religion just incase they might be a terrorist

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes that's understandable but you can't punish people because of their religion just incase they might be a terrorist

red haired people and left handers have got to go ..... back to ireland, its all their fault

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

red haired people and left handers have got to go ..... back to ireland, its all their fault

Did you know that Red heads actually originated in Central Asia so if we're going that far back, they're going to have to go there I'm afraid

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes that's understandable but you can't punish people because of their religion just incase they might be a terrorist

Did I say that. But I think those convicted of terrorists acts should be sent back after their sentence was served here if they had a dual passport and perhaps those that the intelligence services know are involved in terrorism but don't quite have the evidence required, which is pretty stiff in this country, to get a conviction as they pose a Hugh risk to the rest of us.

I never said anything about deporting people based on their religious beliefs alone.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Did I say that. But I think those convicted of terrorists acts should be sent back after their sentence was served here if they had a dual passport and perhaps those that the intelligence services know are involved in terrorism but don't quite have the evidence required, which is pretty stiff in this country, to get a conviction as they pose a Hugh risk to the rest of us.

I never said anything about deporting people based on their religious beliefs alone.

But you want to go back through generations of immigrants and basically take away their citizenship. Also, why would the country they came from even agree to that. It makes no sense

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Did you know that Red heads actually originated in Central Asia so if we're going that far back, they're going to have to go there I'm afraid

Sorry Niamh but this is a serious issue and all our lives are affected by it and I don't see why we should all have to live in fear in order to preserve the rights of terrorists which is what it amounts to.