[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think he was just brought up with little discipline and never needed to show regard for others, cos he can have what he wants, whenever he wants it...

Looking over the DSM-5 checklist, I dont actually think he meets any of the 6 criteria for it

Actually it seemed like he did somewhat but he wasn't exactly sure how to phrase it. I don't think he thought he could do whatever he wanted I think he just got frustrated when something didn't work for routine. looking back he sympathised with quite a few people. We only see 45 mins of their whole day so its pretty arguable to think that they cut out bits purposely where he does go under the checklist.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

Actually it seemed like he did somewhat but he wasn't exactly sure how to phrase it. I don't think he thought he could do whatever he wanted I think he just got frustrated when something didn't work for routine. looking back he sympathised with quite a few people. We only see 45 mins of their whole day so its pretty arguable to think that they cut out bits purposely where he does go under the checklist.

Which aspects of the checklist do you think he meets? His routine behaviour doesnt exist, his frustration was not being able to cope without cigarettes, and is extremely common withdrawel based behaviour.

Your best piece of evidence for his autistic traits is that we only see 45 minutes, so there might be parts in the other 23 hours that would fit

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Withano

Which aspects of the checklist do you think he meets? His routine behaviour doesnt exist, his frustration was not being able to cope without cigarettes, and is extremely common withdrawel based behaviour.

Your best piece of evidence for his autistic traits is that we only see 45 minutes, so there might be parts in the other 23 hours that would fit

You cannot judge somebody due to what a list says as the spectrum is very large and people react in very different ways. I wasn't diagnosed with autism until I was 14 and a lot of people are misjudged because of their very "flawed" way of diagnosing people. that being said he goes under the first sector well with not being able to communicate with people in the same way everyone else does. it is all up for discussion once again but I watch big brother with my family and they agree with me. but I might obviously be wrong and I have just misjudged everything

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

You cannot judge somebody due to what a list says as the spectrum is very large and people react in very different ways. I wasn't diagnosed with autism until I was 14 and a lot of people are misjudged because of their very "flawed" way of diagnosing people. that being said he goes under the first sector well with not being able to communicate with people in the same way everyone else does. it is all up for discussion once again but I watch big brother with my family and they agree with me. but I might obviously be wrong and I have just misjudged everything

Actually, you absolutely do judge them by what the list says. You cant just diagnose Arthur with your hunch and ignore the latest edition of the diagnostic and statistical manual. What are you on about.

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Withano

Actually, you absolutely do judge them by what the list says. You cant just diagnose Arthur with your hunch and ignore the latest edition of the diagnostic and statistical manual. What are you on about.

I did say that Arthur does go under the list but I think I may have worded this wrong. I'm not saying you cant diagnose somebody from the list as I'm pretty sure you can obviously but you cant just take it like gospel as all people are different. I am not a specialist in any way but I think from the way he acts he could be on the spectrum obviously I don't know that for sure as I don't know him personally but I just wanted to see what everyone else thought. cheers

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

I did say that Arthur does go under the list but I think I may have worded this wrong. I'm not saying you cant diagnose somebody from the list as I'm pretty sure you can obviously but you cant just take it like gospel as all people are different. I am not a specialist in any way but I think from the way he acts he could be on the spectrum obviously I don't know that for sure as I don't know him personally but I just wanted to see what everyone else thought. cheers

Every single person with a diagnosis of autism meet the criteria that the dsm and/or icd lay out. You do actually take the list as gospel. I dont think he meets even one, let alone several criteria. So nah I disagree with you.