[user104658]

Orange March went through my. Village every year when I was a kid. All the slack-jawed old farts from the masonic lodge trotting along beating drums like cavemen. Hilarious stuff really, with their beetroot red whiskey drinkers faces... Most of the year the furthest they'd walk was from their couch to the car .

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Orange March went through my. Village every year when I was a kid. All the slack-jawed old farts from the masonic lodge trotting along beating drums like cavemen. Hilarious stuff really, with their beetroot red whiskey drinkers faces... Most of the year the furthest they'd walk was from their couch to the car .

That's a perfect description of them.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's a perfect description of them.

Did you live in TS's village too then?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

Did you live in TS's village too then?

No I say again, I saw these marches visiting the North visiting my Grandmothers friends there.
My Grandmother lived in the South.

TS I believe lives in Scotland, however I have also seen not only marches but problems from Orange order events in Glasgow.

His description of how they come across fit perfectly with mine.
They look ridiculous, like pathetic bigoted dinosaurs.

They could do a lot better totally changing the taunting and baiting attitude of said marches,especially from others following behind.

I see no point to them and the fact they want the flashpoint areas,closed to them for good reason by the way,opened again to them to march down,says all about their warped thinking and daft tradition.

History is all well and good and important to have for a Nation, constantly taunting and baiting as to it,here in the 21st century,marching around like human Toby jugs is at best outdated and frankly sickeningly pathetic.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

human Toby jugs

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No I say again, I saw these marches visiting the North visiting my Grandmothers friends there.
My Grandmother lived in the South.

TS I believe lives in Scotland, however I have also seen not only marches but problems from Orange order events in Glasgow.

His description of how they come across fit perfectly with mine.
They look ridiculous, like pathetic bigoted dinosaurs.

They could do a lot better totally changing the taunting and baiting attitude of said marches,especially from others following behind.

I see no point to them and the fact they want the flashpoint areas,closed to them for good reason by the way,opened again to them to march down,says all about their warped thinking and daft tradition.

History is all well and good and important to have for a Nation, constantly taunting and baiting as to it,here in the 21st century,marching around like human Toby jugs is at best outdated and frankly sickeningly pathetic.

It's attitudes like this from both sides of the divide that kept the Troubles going for so many years. I live here don't forget, and your vitriol is combative and unhelpful. Each side have their culture, their marches.
There has been contentious issues on both sides, but your unfortunate impressions are overblown. Most marches are perfectly peaceful, fun and festive occasions. Hordes of tourists wouldn't turn up to watch the marches if they were full of 'taunting and baiting'. You are referring to isolated incidents at particular sensitive times as if they happen frequently. They do not.
I agree with you about the Scottish bands that come over here to join the Orange parade - and there are many of them. I have never seen so many overweight, red faced men with massive beer - bellies in my life. Toby Jugs indeed.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by jet

It's attitudes like this from both sides of the divide that kept the Troubles going for so many years. I live here don't forget, and your vitriol is combative and unhelpful. Each side have their culture, their marches.
There has been contentious issues on both sides, but your unfortunate impressions are overblown. Most marches are perfectly peaceful, fun and festive occasions. Hordes of tourists wouldn't turn up to watch the marches if they were full of 'taunting and baiting'. You are referring to isolated incidents at particular sensitive times as if they happen frequently. They do not.
I agree with you about the Scottish bands that come over here to join the Orange parade - and there are many of them. I have never seen so many overweight, red faced men with massive beer - bellies in my life. Toby Jugs indeed.

horrific stereotyping going on and underlying bile

disgraceful behavoir

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

It's attitudes like this from both sides of the divide that kept the Troubles going for so many years. I live here don't forget, and your vitriol is combative and unhelpful. Each side have their culture, their marches.
There has been contentious issues on both sides, but your unfortunate impressions are overblown. Most marches are perfectly peaceful, fun and festive occasions. Hordes of tourists wouldn't turn up to watch the marches if they were full of 'taunting and baiting'. You are referring to isolated incidents at particular sensitive times as if they happen frequently. They do not.
I agree with you about the Scottish bands that come over here to join the Orange parade - and there are many of them. I have never seen so many overweight, red faced men with massive beer - bellies in my life. Toby Jugs indeed.

You can twist things all you like jet.

I see these things as taunting and baiting exercises, which can only help re-ignite old divisions.
No matter your 'pretty' take on such events which may well be enjoyed in some places by both sides.

The fact remains,yes fact, that these marches have had to be banned down certain roads for good reasons.
If all went as you claim they do,there would be no need whatsoever for any bans to be put in place or stay in place.
They don't get banned for no reason and certainly not because they are enjoyable/peaceful as you try to make out.
However there are banned on some roads/areas,fact.

Now as to Mrs May and this thread, the DUP securing any govt of the UK with organised voting is abhorrent to me.
The DUP are a party at odds with their own Nation on many issues.
The mystery is for me why they get strong support there.

They are an extreme source and they are backed heavily by the sectarian orange order too.
There should be no place for them at all as to securing via deal any UK govt.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You can twist things all you like jet.

I see these things as taunting and baiting exercises, which can only help re-ignite old divisions.
No matter your 'pretty' take on such events which may well be enjoyed in some places by both sides.

The fact remains,yes fact, that these marches have had to be banned down certain roads for good reasons.
If all went as you claim they do,there would be no need whatsoever for any bans to be put in place or stay in place.
They don't get banned for no reason and certainly not because they are enjoyable/peaceful as you try to make out.
However there are banned on some roads/areas,fact.

Now as to Mrs May and this thread, the DUP securing any govt of the UK with organised voting is abhorrent to me.
The DUP are a party at odds with their own Nation on many issues.
The mystery is for me why they get strong support there.

They are an extreme source and they are backed heavily by the sectarian orange order too.
There should be no place for them at all as to securing via deal any UK govt.

I already said that there were certain contentious issues relating to marches on both sides, but you ignored that. Those ‘certain roads’ you talk about are just a few areas outside of the city centre and don’t affect the main parades route - and progress has been made on both sides. I know the Orange parade which passes near to my friends family area stops playing their instruments until they have passed. That was agreed upon. Inflammatory talk like yours is of the kind which keeps the problems ongoing. People need to respect each others cultures.

The DUP are a party at odds with their own Nation on many issues.
The mystery is for me why they get strong support there.

Not really sure what you mean here. Like them or not, they were voted for democratically through the ballot box. Either you believe in democracy or you don't. The reason they get strong support is because the majority want to remain in the UK and the other main party Sinn Fein supported the IRA (and still has members of that organisation among their number) that ignored the democratic process and tried to bomb and murder their way out of the UK instead of letting the people who live here decide what they wanted democratically. The other parties are irrelevant now, so people have no choice but vote for the DUP if they want to stay in the union.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Orange March went through my. Village every year when I was a kid. All the slack-jawed old farts from the masonic lodge trotting along beating drums like cavemen. Hilarious stuff really, with their beetroot red whiskey drinkers faces... Most of the year the furthest they'd walk was from their couch to the car .

Oh dear. Doesn't sound like much fun where you lived.
Over here the Orange and Republican marches are festival days with a lot of young lads beating the drums and crowds of girls following them hoping to get themselves a date.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Orange March went through my. Village every year when I was a kid. All the slack-jawed old farts from the masonic lodge trotting along beating drums like cavemen. Hilarious stuff really, with their beetroot red whiskey drinkers faces... Most of the year the furthest they'd walk was from their couch to the car .

yeah hahaha thats right TS...zzzzz

the reality is all the people from that lodge employed all the people in the village and without them your village would not exist

what nasty prejudice

wow

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yeah hahaha thats right TS...zzzzz

the reality is all the people from that lodge employed all the people in the village and without them your village would not exist

what nasty prejudice

wow

Glasgow satellite dairy farming village, hardly anyone from the village actually worked there. It had a primary school, a post office and I believe a Spar convenience store. I don't think any of them owned the Spar .

No no. These fine gentlemen liked to play bowls, drink too much Real Ale, and discuss how much they hated catholics.