[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Eh what have you been reading. Corbyn has spent his life on the far left of the party opposed to the social democratic leadership. Not talking purely about Blair there for the record, he even opposed Michael Foot from the left. Corbyn has always aligned with Tony Benn style views (i.e. hardline socialist), not Harold Wilsons

Jeremy Corbyn is not hard left he is centre left, he is an old fashioned social democrat.

He is presented as hard left by the right wing gutter press because it suits their agenda.

Tony Blair was not centre he was on the right of the labour party, a New Labour blue. The less politically informed now believe he was centre because they don't realise that the Tories are no longer right wing conservatives, they are ultra right wing free market liberals who have abandoned Keynesian economics and adopted neoliberalim. Therefore as the Tories have lurched 'SO FAR RIGHT', it makes Corbyn appear 'so far Left'. And a lot of us understand this. That's why we've just had the largest swing towards Labour since WW11

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Jeremy Corbyn is not hard left he is centre left, he is an old fashioned social democrat.

He is presented as hard left by the right wing gutter press because it suits their agenda.

Tony Blair was not centre he was on the right of the labour party, a New Labour blue. The less politically informed now believe he was centre because they don't realise that the Tories are no longer right wing conservatives, they are ultra right wing free market liberals who have abandoned Keynesian economics and adopted neoliberalim. Therefore as the Tories have lurched 'SO FAR RIGHT', it makes Corbyn appear 'so far Left'. And a lot of us understand this. That's why we've just had the largest swing towards Labour since WW11

Ok but I specifically said I wasn't talking about Blair. Corbyn was considered on the far left of the Labour Party long before Blair and New Labour

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Ok but I specifically said I wasn't talking about Blair. Corbyn was considered on the far left of the Labour Party long before Blair and New Labour

Corbyn has been an activist for peace and fairness most of his working life. So have I but that doesn't make me 'hard left'. I spent years canvassing and being a member of the Lib Dems. I jumped ship but I wouldn't do that lightly because I'm a centrist and regardless of what your imbecilic Black Tops and Murdoch paint, Corbyn's Labour party is a centrist party.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Corbyn has been an activist for peace and fairness most of his working life. So have I but that doesn't make me 'hard left'. I spent years canvassing and being a member of the Lib Dems. I jumped ship but I wouldn't do that lightly because I'm a centrist and regardless of what your imbecilic Black Tops and Murdoch paint, Corbyn's Labour party is a centrist party.

You're ignoring his pre-leadership history. Saying he was always on the far left of the party is not a tabloid smear - it is a matter of historical record.

Throughout his pre-leadership parliamentary career Corbyn was a member of the Socialist Campaign Group, a hard-left group of MPs that split with the soft-left Tribune Group in 1982. It is important to note the context. Labour’s ‘right’ had already left and formed the centrist Social Democratic Party in response to the election of the left-wing Michael Foot as Labour’s leader. Corbyn and his associates actually rebelled against Foot’s leadership from the left, most notably when Tony Benn challenged Dennis Healey for the Deputy Leadership.

On a variety of issues Corbyn was well to the left of the leadership and has always held Bennite-socialist,*not*social democratic, views. In addition to campaigning to leave the EEC in 1975, Corbyn opposed the expulsion of the Trotskyite*Militant Tendency*from Labour and supported the Miner’s Strike of 1984-5. From 1982, he contributed to the*Morning Star, which has consistently had an editorial in line with the programme of the Communist Party of Great Britain. As recently as 2015, Corbyn*referred*to the paper as “the most precious and only voice we have in the daily media”.

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