[DemolitionRed]

We so often get into lengthy debate about the opposition party and although its clear that a number of posters on here are true blues, we seldom hear about why.

What are the Conservatives getting right? and what are their traditional values that encourage you, the voter, to support them?

[Niamh.]

They're about to get even more "traditional" once they get in bed with the DUP

[smudgie]

I voted Tory, however I am not a true blue.
I voted Tory after the Blair/Brown years, simply because I could not vote for the Labour Party of the time.
The coalition didn't do too bad a job of it so I voted Tory again, plus I didn't like what Labour had to offer.
Had Labour had a better leader and more realistic manifesto then perhaps it would have been a consideration for me this time around, but no thanks, not with Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott at the helm.
In future I could vote either way, as I have done in the past.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They're about to get even more "traditional" once they get in bed with the DUP

God (or anyone who actually can!) help us if this does infact end up happening.
We're doomed i tell you, DOOMED!!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by JTM45

God (or anyone who actually can!) help us if this does infact end up happening.
We're doomed i tell you, DOOMED!!!!

The whole world is doomed right now i think

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The whole world is doomed right now i think

If only they'd spent more time and effort on Interstellar Travel......

''Stop the World.............I want to get off!!!'' . If only eh.

[bots]

Not many people are out and out tories in the truest sense of the word.

Most people fall between the focus of the 2 main parties and then are left to make a judgement call on which of the 2 choices best represent them.

People are centrist in the majority, and that's not what the Lib dems offer and the other 2 parties are veering off further left and right, satisfying less and less people with smaller and smaller demographics

I'm watching what has happened in France with great interest, because on the face of it, people are flocking in their droves to the centre ground, I just hope he can deliver on his promises or it could all go horribly wrong for him

[Crimson Dynamo]

didnt vote for them so no idea

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

We so often get into lengthy debate about the opposition party and although its clear that a number of posters on here are true blues, we seldom hear about why.

What are the Conservatives getting right? and what are their traditional values that encourage you, the voter, to support them?

Respecting a democratic public vote for one. That is a Hugh issue in my opinion. I was disgusted at how so many lefties and others were happy to ignore such a vote because it didn't go their way. You really can't get much lower than that in a democratic society. It goes against everything we are supposed to stand for. Many were sticking two fingers up at that for their open selfish interests. Absolutely no time for that.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Respecting a democratic public vote for one. That is a Hugh issue in my opinion. I was disgusted at how so many lefties and others were happy to ignore such a vote because it didn't go their way. You really can't get much lower than that in a democratic society. It goes against everything we are supposed to stand for. Many were sticking two fingers up at that for their open selfish interests. Absolutely no time for that.

'Respect' is a two-way thing and needs to be earned and not just given in 'tradition' especially when the traditional values of a democratic society are no longer adhered too. ''Ain't no body got time for that!'' <

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by JTM45

'Respect' is a two-way thing and needs to be earned and not just given in 'tradition' especially when the traditional values of a democratic society are no longer adhered too. ''Ain't no body got time for that!'' <

In other words if you don't like the result, attempt to mess with it. Is it 'unearned' because you don't agree with it, because others have a different opinion to you.

[Withano]

Its so awkward that nobody has said a single policy yet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

Its so awkward that nobody has said a single policy yet

DR did not ask for policies and so far we have only found one member who voted Tory

Unless you know of other members who voted Conservative?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

DR did not ask for policies and so far we have only found one member who voted Tory

Unless you know of other members who voted Conservative?

2 so far. When asked why they voted tory, none of them mentioned a policy, and thats alarming.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

2 so far. When asked why they voted tory, none of them mentioned a policy, and thats alarming.

I expect they voted for their Local MP who does a great job for them as many many voters do. You are aware that this happens?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Withano

2 so far. When asked why they voted tory, none of them mentioned a policy, and thats alarming.

No, not alarming.
It's not just about what their policy is, it's also down to if you believe they can/will carry them out.
Who you put your trust in at the time, or more like who you mistrust the most.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Withano

2 so far. When asked why they voted tory, none of them mentioned a policy, and thats alarming.

Perhaps people aren't interested in yet another thread where the pack decend

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Ok but this thread isn't about what Labour didn't do and more about what the Conservatives did do. We have had thread upon thread about the goods and bad's of Labour. We have had almost equal levels of threads on all the bad things the Tories have done but to my recollection, I've never once seen a thread on here about the 'good virtues of the Conservative party' and that's what I started this thread for.

This thread is more about how Tory supporters would sell their party to the general public. People like me want to know how I could personally gain from keeping the Tories in.

https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto

Its 88 pages so let us know when you have read it and report back with findings

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Perhaps people aren't interested in yet another thread where the pack decend

I'd like this thread to have some level of thoughtfulness and intelligence. I know its precarious but it would be nice if people could just discuss things without all falling out.

Edited to say: I just laughed when I re-read my last sentence. I should go and re-name myself 'thread-killer'!

[the truth]

Tory party lowers taxes on the working classes, they put a limit on benefits of Ł25,000...from the previously unlimited handouts to breed for benefit families
They have created more jobs in the UK since 2010 than the rest of the european 27 countries put together, a staggering statistic and one of the reasons unemployment has fallen and gdp has risen and the deficit is falling
Basiclaly the country and the economy at large is way better off now than it was under labour. This has meant the tories have spent far more per head on the nhs in england than labour have done in wales since 2010. The welsh economy is miles weaker , average gdp is a pitiful Ł18000 per head in wales its Ł43000 in london? that is a staggering difference of 240%? the dreadful welsh economy means less money for public services which again is why the welsh nhs is miles behind englands....the tories have wiped out mrsa in hospitals, theyve strengthen the ombudsmen so people can make private complaints without fear of being bullied as they were under labour and still are in wales....the tories are fighting hard for a 7 day nhs by cleverly employing continental shifts...just like every other professiona medics should work the odd weekend,. Its a lie to say the service is anywhere near as good on the weekend. its a joke on the weekend. It should be the same standard, people should be at a vastly higher risk of dying depending what day they arrive in hospital. the tories gave us a democratic referendum too and respected the result

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto

Its 88 pages so let us know when you have read it and report back with findings

I've read most of that manifesto so thanks but I don't need to re-read it. I was looking for personal views. If you don't want to join in then please refrain from trolling.

[DemolitionRed]

Thanks TT. I'm just rushing out but will be back in a couple of hours and I'll take on board what you wrote.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I've read most of that manifesto so thanks but I don't need to re-read it. I was looking for personal views. If you don't want to join in then please refrain from trolling.

That is not trolling its answering your question, some may say that this thread is just that however....

[King Gizzard]

The Tories and any sort of values are not two things I'd put in the same sentence personally

[Withano]

Originally Posted by smudgie

No, not alarming.
It's not just about what their policy is, it's also down to if you believe they can/will carry them out.
Who you put your trust in at the time, or more like who you mistrust the most.

Perhaps I should have been clearer - it is alarming to me -

Tories are in charge and when their supporters are asked why, their policies arent mentioned. Maybe I'm doing democracy all wrong, but the policies that I want to live with for 5 years will always be the key reason to place my vote. I wouldnt vote Labour for the sake of not like May as a person very much, it isnt the X Factor.. I also wouldn't vote Labour for the sake of not liking right wing people very much like Brillo suggested, it is nothing to do with them... And I also wouldnt vote Labour for somehing the Tories did X many years ago under a different leader and policies, Like TT is suggesting some have done, because its irrelevant.

The responses are therefore alarming to me, because they go against what I thought the priority reason of the general election was about