[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I got to say though, I'm glad the last thing Moffat has done (so far) is finally give the Cybermen a bit of direction in terms of their place in the show. If you think about it, they have the potential to be the scariest monsters in the show. Sure the Weeping Angels make you jump and the Daleks are ruthless killing machines but the Cybermen have got such a tragic and terrifying concept. They take humans and trap them, in pain, in steel to make you like them. They had lost that edge for me and it's good to see them back to quite a gritty plot.

I recall they did a similar sort of story for the Daleks so it's nice to see Moffat do the same for the Cybermen, and explore their history. It's fresh. And I'd say the same for a lot of Moffat's older episodes in terms of exploring new concepts.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I recall they did a similar sort of story for the Daleks so it's nice to see Moffat do the same for the Cybermen, and explore their history. It's fresh. And I'd say the same for a lot of Moffat's older episodes in terms of exploring new concepts.

Yeah, I think that was the "in-joke" when Simm's master mentioned "You could say... a genesis".