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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Kieran was in the wrong, he tried to deflect but it didn't work on me, and I doubt it will on many people too.

And the way him and Sam followed Raph out into the Garden to basically gang up on him 2 on 1 is not the sign of someone that's confident that they've got enough valid points to take him on on his own.

Totally right Mock.

Nothing to add to all you've said there from me.

I was really disappointed in Kieran actually.