[Ant.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Typical bAiting post. Do we really need these.

But it raises a good point. Why are you so obsessed with Raph??

[azi]

I think the prank would've worked if Chan didn't say anything.
But yeah Josie kinda ruined his game. Everyone is looking at him expecting him to do something just to win now.

[Vanessa]

Keiran smiling at him after he couldn't keep a straight face was so cute

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

But it raises a good point. Why are you so obsessed with Raph??

Everyone on here has the same rights, to like or dislike any hm8 they wish,and should be able to comment on them without being baited ,they are ALL up for discussion

[Vanessa]

The face that he's so rubbish at pranks makes it funny for me

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Everyone on here has the same rights, to like or dislike any hm8 they wish,and should be able to comment on them without being baited ,they are ALL up for discussion

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

Great post and I agree. I hope Raph also sees how hard us fans fought for him. It hasn't been easy, but we have his back.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Great post and I agree. I hope Raph also sees how hard us fans fought for him. It hasn't been easy, but we have his back.

Thanks, and as do I. He's had one of the biggest fanclubs on the show and I'm sure he'll recognise all the hardwork you, rph, LukeB and all the others have put in to supporting and voting fo him

[Littlegreen]

That post says everything I've felt, thank you Lilbro.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

That post says everything I've felt, thank you Lilbro.

You're very welcome - I'm glad people feel the same. I've had that little vent built up for weeks and I've been afraid I'd articulate my points poorly, but I'm glad others share this view

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Thanks, and as do I. He's had one of the biggest fanclubs on the show and I'm sure he'll recognise all the hardwork you, rph, LukeB and all the others have put in to supporting and voting fo him

I'm sure your loyalty wont be invain and if he is a superfan he will also aknowledge he will not be everyones fave and accept that,I don't suppose it will bother him that much as long as people are honest. I can imagine there will be such a scramble in here when he is back.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm sure your loyalty wont be invain and if he is a superfan he will also aknowledge he will not be everyones fave and accept that,I don't suppose it will bother him that much as long as people are honest. I can imagine there will be such a scramble in here when he is back.

Oh he'll know he will be hated, no matter how perfect or imperfect he is. He took being called "two-faced" hard and while I disagree and wouldn't agree with it being said about him since he doesn't like it, if someone felt that way I'd say that's a fair criticism to make about him - or anyone

But when he's being called a ***** and is having his personality and sexuality/identity insulted (in a more obscene way than I've seen compared to other housemates), it must be disheartening to say the least

And true, whether it's this Friday or next (or maybe midweek), his return's gonna cause drama (or so I'd imagine - he'd definitely get asked a LOT of questions at least)

[Paula D]

I don't think you're reading all the threads if you think no other housemate is getting the same level of abuse. Chanelle, Sam and Ellie are getting more than that. Do you think they or their families will like them being called sluts, slags, skanks, sewer rats? No. I don't see you standing up to any of that. So there's complete double standards going on here.

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[Paula D]

The very reason I don't like Raph is because of this forum and that's telling the gods honest truth because a majority don't want to accept his faults.

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[Vanessa]

One of the reasons I love Raph is the unwarranted abuse he gets in here. When something unfair happens to a housemate it just makes me like them more. Same happened with Bear and it made me like him more.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

So do all the other hm8s, Raph is not a special case that no one can comment on ,Ive seen lots of other hm8s being treat a damn sight worse than Snake Boy who gets spoken about by certain people as if he's found a cure for cancer

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Paula D

The very reason I don't like Raph is because of this forum and that's telling the gods honest truth because a majority don't want to accept his faults.

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Thats not a great reason to dislike a HM to be fair 😂 but I agree that other HMs get more hate than Raph. Ellie especially ..(deserved )

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

So thats it You want him to think you've defended his honour, why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of writing an essay ? Silly Billy !

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

One of the reasons I love Raph is the unwarranted abuse he gets in here. When something unfair happens to a housemate it just makes me like them more. Same happened with Bear and it made me like him more.

So do you love Chanelle for the same reason?

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[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Paula D

So do you love Chanelle for the same reason?

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Mosly because she makes me laugh. But yes, she also gets unfair abuse.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

One of the reasons I love Raph is the unwarranted abuse he gets in here. When something unfair happens to a housemate it just makes me like them more. Same happened with Bear and it made me like him more.

You never supported Bear ?

[DouglasS]

I'd so be here for the breakdowns on this website if Raph wins

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I'd so be here for the breakdowns on this website if Raph wins

Let's make it happen

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I'd so be here for the breakdowns on this website if Raph wins

Its not going to happen,but keep dreaming, no one should ever stop someones dreams

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I'd so be here for the breakdowns on this website if Raph wins

There wouldn't be many breakdowns bc the vast majority of this forum has loved him all series. People keep whining about how he's getting unfairly treated and getting so much hate here but it's all coming from the same ~7-8 posters. If he won, people would just get to spin a false narrative about how he had to overcome so much when he was held in a favorable light by both us and the public all series long.