[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Lotan wasn't half as bad as people like to paint on here , all this aggressive misogynistic is bull**** just a phase to make him sound worse that someone who just lost their temper at someone constantly putting him down, we all have a breaking point,evertime he spoke about his girlfriend Isabelle piped up "It's all you ever talk about" so what? what had it to dowith her,that wasn't all he spoke about anyway, then the remark about his boy,he probably overreacted but lots of parents are sensitive over their kids, all he did was throw some water,Chanelle was far more aggressive than him,and all those egirls screaming in his face was uncalled for too. People saying Isabelle got him chucked out,well no it was for other reasons too, no one knows for sure,then you get those gloating she had caused him to lose his job,well no she didn't ,his contract was up ,he should have handled it better but I can see in that situation a lot of people would have found it unbearable and surely Isabelle fans should be thanking him as they keep saying he handed her the win,anyway that's my take on Lotan,he handled it wrong ,but misogynistic and bully never.I think he could have been a pretty good housemate.

My take on Lotan was he believed his own publicity or rather the Dream Boys publicity.

Lotans downfall was he couldn't live up to it and let his true feelings take over in minutes of stress. He was living a lie as he knew he was not this jovial likeable Alpha male who could handle things when they were not going his way.

Because women were two a penny at his appearances, he seemed to think less of women as a whole but elevated the one he choose as a partner to be on a higher position. No one should talk about her but him, no one could be like her and the fact they had broken up was not to be discussed, ever by anyone else but him.

By setting these standards for others, he was bound to fail but was too engrossed in his own world to understand he was just another housemate.

Then his foul and disgusting behaviour towards Isabelle and how he egged on his sad little band of followers, the ever eager and available Ellie, the limpid Tom, Keiron who was scared Isoblel would out his sexual health problems, to insult and isolate her.

I found this quite disgusting and not entertaining in the least, who would? The fact that it quietened down after that was because so many were given warnings not because Lotan left because his baiting, smirking and posturing had become so over the top it was uncomfortable viewing.

How the mighty had fallen, even if his Dream Boys contract had ended, they didn't renew it and blocked him from their website. At least they had a shred of decency.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

My take on Lotan was he believed his own publicity or rather the Dream Boys publicity.

Lotans downfall was he couldn't live up to it and let his true feelings take over in minutes of stress. He was living a lie as he knew he was not this jovial likeable Alpha male who could handle things when they were not going his way.

Because women were two a penny at his appearances, he seemed to think less of women as a whole but elevated the one he choose as a partner to be on a higher position. No one should talk about her but him, no one could be like her and the fact they had broken up was not to be discussed, ever by anyone else but him.

By setting these standards for others, he was bound to fail but was too engrossed in his own world to understand he was just another housemate.

Then his foul and disgusting behaviour towards Isabelle and how he egged on his sad little band of followers, the ever eager and available Ellie, the limpid Tom, Keiron who was scared Isoblel would out his sexual health problems, to insult and isolate her.

I found this quite disgusting and not entertaining in the least, who would? The fact that it quietened down after that was because so many were given warnings not because Lotan left because his baiting, smirking and posturing had become so over the top it was uncomfortable viewing.

How the mighty had fallen, even if his Dream Boys contract had ended, they didn't renew it and blocked him from their website. At least they had a shred of decency.

Good post, Poppsy. I agree with much of what you have said here.

My first impressions of Lotan were not good, but I changed my mind when he showed some sensitivity and compassion towards Arthur and in other situations- I thought I had initially misjudged him and even began to support him.

However, I think you have hit the nail on the head in suggesting he was trying to play (or live up to) a role which he could not maintain long term, and as you say, particularly in moments of stress, and eventually his true character emerged.

I couldn't agree more with what you say regarding the behaviour he displayed towards Isabelle. His treatment and constant targeting of her was absolutely despicable and uncomfortable viewing, and he showed himself as the distinctly unpleasant character he really was. He was therefore the master of his own downfall, and this cannot be blamed on or attributed to Issy- he chose to target and bully Isabelle, he chose to invite others to join him in this, he chose his reaction when she finally pulled him up for it and he chose his words and behaviour afterwards. On all occasions he demonstrated the same personality traits.

And just as Isabelle cannot be blamed for the behaviour and characteristics Lotan displayed, he should not be seen as the reason for the positive characteristics she showed or the reason for her win. She was basically a decent and genuine person who had the courage to stand up to a bully, and Lotan deserves no credit for that.

[Lush]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

My take on Lotan was he believed his own publicity or rather the Dream Boys publicity.

Lotans downfall was he couldn't live up to it and let his true feelings take over in minutes of stress. He was living a lie as he knew he was not this jovial likeable Alpha male who could handle things when they were not going his way.

Because women were two a penny at his appearances, he seemed to think less of women as a whole but elevated the one he choose as a partner to be on a higher position. No one should talk about her but him, no one could be like her and the fact they had broken up was not to be discussed, ever by anyone else but him.

By setting these standards for others, he was bound to fail but was too engrossed in his own world to understand he was just another housemate.

Then his foul and disgusting behaviour towards Isabelle and how he egged on his sad little band of followers, the ever eager and available Ellie, the limpid Tom, Keiron who was scared Isoblel would out his sexual health problems, to insult and isolate her.

I found this quite disgusting and not entertaining in the least, who would? The fact that it quietened down after that was because so many were given warnings not because Lotan left because his baiting, smirking and posturing had become so over the top it was uncomfortable viewing.

How the mighty had fallen, even if his Dream Boys contract had ended, they didn't renew it and blocked him from their website. At least they had a shred of decency.

What a great post.