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Originally Posted by TomC

Let me make it clear I LOVE Rainbow

but I can't @ the Gaga and more spefically, Joanne shade in here. Yes, Artpop may be more fun to listen to, but it's messy and there's no arguing with the fact that Joanne is the stronger artistic vision.

Just cos it might not sit right with your musical taste, you can't knock a highly personal, stripped back, well-produced album like Joanne!

This chick has evolved and I just don't understand why she gets dragged for not being relevant to pop culture anymore, and standing up to the way she used to be when she's evolved and CrazyGa was her early-20s image.

She get's dragged because (as well as the music being utter sh!te) she's as fake and manipulative as they come. Everything she does is forced. Nothing is organic. She claims she doesn't write for the charts but it's all she ever goes on about - well, that and winning as many accolades as possible. It's almost as if she think's she's a failure if she doesn't reach #1 or win any awards. Everything's just one big competition to her. Just look at how she reacted when Katy Perry's "Roar" kicked the living daylights out of "Applause". Anyone else would've congratulated the artist who pipped them to the post, but not her, she went and had a strop like the silly little girl she is.

I usually enjoy a good stripped back album, but Joanne was awful. I find it laughable how some fans think it was the most personal record ever. Have they ever heard of Tapestry by Carole King? Or Blue by Joni Mitchell?

There's nothing "Artistic" about Joanne whatsoever. The visual imagery had already been done before and by better artists. and singing about dead people isn't something new either. It always makes me laugh when she talks about having a deep rooted connection with her deceased aunt in interviews - like she knew her or something, but she died 12 years before Gags was born. All she knows is what she was told by her family. I wouldn't be surprised if she used her aunt to make what she considers a personal record to get sympathy from the public after the abysmal sales of Artflop,. I'm guessing most of us saw through the bullsh!t and that's why it backfired spectacularly.