[jaxie]

It's never pleasant when anyone says that kind of thing from any political party, group or even an individual. It's also quite low to imply that the people they view as worth gassing are voters in their own party. This seems to say that you also find these people they call chav beneath contempt. It's not cool, nice nor appropriate no matter who is saying it and in any context.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's never pleasant when anyone says that kind of thing from any political party, group or even an individual. It's also quite low to imply that the people they view as worth gassing are voters in their own party. This seems to say that you also find these people they call chav beneath contempt. It's not cool, nice nor appropriate no matter who is saying it and in any context.

Statistics don’t lie The 2015 Ipsos pole showed it was the unemployed and working class electoral voters who kept Labour out of power and it’s the unemployed and working class voter some rich people and even other working class people call chavs and peasants. I don’t btw. I think there is nothing more abhorrent than the words ‘chav’ and 'peasant'

You know, I don’t mind debating this but I can’t debate it if you are going to get all offended by my use of words. The truth is, there is no other way to say it, but there is a reason why the poor working class are more likely to vote UKIP or Tory and I’m happy to talk about my views on why that is.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Statistics don’t lie The 2015 Ipsos pole showed it was the unemployed and working class electoral voters who kept Labour out of power and it’s the unemployed and working class voter some rich people and even other working class people call chavs and peasants. I don’t btw. I think there is nothing more abhorrent than the words ‘chav’ and 'peasant'

You know, I don’t mind debating this but I can’t debate it if you are going to get all offended by my use of words. The truth is, there is no other way to say it, but there is a reason why the poor working class are more likely to vote UKIP or Tory and I’m happy to talk about my views on why that is.

Sounds like the reason why the 'poor and working class' don't vote for Labour is because they don't trust them to deliver for them - Labour's history has spoken!

Also confirms what many have said that many PC lefties are from more 'privileged' backgrounds who like to back a 'cause' with their heads right up there in the clouds.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Sounds like the reason why the 'poor and working class' don't vote for Labour is because they don't trust them to deliver for them - Labour's history has spoken!

Also confirms what many have said that many PC lefties are from more 'privileged' backgrounds who like to back a 'cause' with their heads right up there in the clouds.

Nah, just people who understand what the fcuks really going on. People who understand the methods used to control much of the population. The only difference between you and me is, I can see it, you can't.

I don't want my kids growing up as consumer slaves or living in this re-shaped reality. I want them to question what their masters are up to and I want them to fight, if need be, for 'real' democracy and not just an illusion of what they think democracy is. I don't want my kids going through life as consumer slaves crippled with debt, unable to afford medical insurance, unable to afford a half decent roof over their heads. I want my kids to have the same opportunities my parents had... is that so wrong?

Your comment about walking around with ones head in a cloud is probably the oddest and confusing thing I've seen you write about someone who shows political concerns. What on earth are you suggesting?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Nah, just people who understand what the fcuks really going on. People who understand the methods used to control much of the population. The only difference between you and me is, I can see it, you can't.

I don't want my kids growing up as consumer slaves or living in this re-shaped reality. I want them to question what their masters are up to and I want them to fight, if need be, for 'real' democracy and not just an illusion of what they think democracy is. I don't want my kids going through life as consumer slaves crippled with debt, unable to afford medical insurance, unable to afford a half decent roof over their heads. I want my kids to have the same opportunities my parents had... is that so wrong?

Your comment about walking around with ones head in a cloud is probably the oddest and confusing thing I've seen you write about someone who shows political concerns. What on earth are you suggesting?

I can see the manipulation of the far-left and their airy fairy ideologies often without much in the way of real life experience.

We all want the best for out kids we just have different views on how to achieve that. Like many, I do not believe we will have such security under a current Labour government. I think Corbyn and his 'ideology' will be the ruin of this country.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I can see the manipulation of the far-left and their airy fairy ideologies often without much in the way of real life experience.

You're just mad that they call you islamophobic don't lie.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I can see the manipulation of the far-left and their airy fairy ideologies often without much in the way of real life experience.

We all want the best for out kids we just have different views on how to achieve that. Like many, I do not believe we will have such security under a current Labour government. I think Corbyn and his 'ideology' will be the ruin of this country.

And yet you insist that manipulation of the masses and far right ideologies do not permeate society ... :/

The country is already ruined, people are again starving in the streets children dying of want in squalor not seen since Edwardian times under 'austerity'. We have to try another way.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And yet you insist that manipulation of the masses and far right ideologies do not permeate society ... :/

The country is already ruined, people are again starving in the streets children dying of want in squalor not seen since Edwardian times under 'austerity'. We have to try another way.

Times are a changing though. People are waking up and smelling the corruption. Interestingly, neoliberal ideology warns about what will happen when all the low hanging fruit has been picked and its disgruntled people start to turn more and more towards nationalism. Neoliberalism has reached its final days and things are about to change.