[Cherry Christmas]

Infant mortality in England and Wales peaked in the 1890s at a tremendously high rate of approximately 150 deaths per 1000 births. These statistics demonstrate that, for both the adults and children that family historians study, the world was a dangerous place! The situation today is, of course, much improved.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Infant mortality in England and Wales peaked in the 1890s at a tremendously high rate of approximately 150 deaths per 1000 births. These statistics demonstrate that, for both the adults and children that family historians study, the world was a dangerous place! The situation today is, of course, much improved.

So the deaths at this and other establishments like it can be forgiven for stockpiling the corpses of hundreds of children? The article said most of the bodies were pre 1930...not all.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So the deaths at this and other establishments like it can be forgiven for stockpiling the corpses of hundreds of children? The article said most of the bodies were pre 1930...not all.

ok what's your point? It was still an era of poverty and early death

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

ok what's your point? It was still an era of poverty and early death

The onus in this case is not that they died but how the bodies were mismanaged isn't it? That was my point.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So the deaths at this and other establishments like it can be forgiven for stockpiling the corpses of hundreds of children? The article said most of the bodies were pre 1930...not all.

One of them at least is from 1961.

Different times does not really wash with me,some Nuns could be really horrible individuals and don't let us get started on child abuse across the board as to both Nuns and Priests.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Infant mortality in England and Wales peaked in the 1890s at a tremendously high rate of approximately 150 deaths per 1000 births. These statistics demonstrate that, for both the adults and children that family historians study, the world was a dangerous place! The situation today is, of course, much improved.

It was a time of high infant mortality Cherie but if the graves of the.nuns are well tended and the children thrown in some pit it shows a significant lack of care and value of the existence of all those children and that's pretty vile as is the idea that because parents weren't married children couldn't be baptised. An innocent child is not responsible for any rules their parent breaks. It's clear there was a level of neglect in these institutions and even levels of malnutrition as outlined in the case in Ireland in a report in the 1940s. It doesn't matter what era it was, the nuns had a duty of care and it seems particularly careless in the way these bodies were disposed of.

Many good people may have gone into the church but you don't hear of those people ever rocking the boat and speaking out about these terrible things.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was a time of high infant mortality Cherie but if the graves of the.nuns are well tended and the children thrown in some pit it shows a significant lack of care and value of the existence of all those children and that's pretty vile as is the idea that because parents weren't married children couldn't be baptised. An innocent child is not responsible for any rules their parent breaks. It's clear there was a level of neglect in these institutions and even levels of malnutrition as outlined in the case in Ireland in a report in the 1940s. It doesn't matter what era it was, the nuns had a duty of care and it seems particularly careless in the way these bodies were disposed of.

Many good people may have gone into the church but you don't hear of those people ever rocking the boat and speaking out about these terrible things.

Exactly. Horrific abuses of power and horrific deeds were carried out under the name of the church and when uncovered they try to brush them under the carpet rather than be outraged that such disgusting things were carried out in their name and within their institutions, where they were supposed to be looking after the most vulnerable people in society