[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You'd have to look pretty hard to find someone who thinks we should let the disabled or people who lose their jobs stave. No-one here said that.

Did you see the quote that I was replying to? This was heavily insinuated. That those who cannot earn very high wages just pissed about and can't be arsed.

Also its a depressingly common view that we should let people who lose their jobs starve. hence the support for sanctions for JSA claimants :S

Many think that the disabled just aren't their problem. Not many will say that, but the lack of response from many (not just on here, in general) when the disabled are treat like garbage is astounding. The widespread support for 'ATOS" and their ilk who are actively removing benefits from severely disabled people...and all as the daily mail tells everyone that there are sooo many people falsely claiming benefit. I would be absolutely amazed if more than a handful of people managed to do this, given the huge amounts of proof that are required to be awarded disability benefits in the first place. And even if you have these huge amounts of evidence that you actually are ill, a lot of the time the evidence is ignored and the say so of someone who has done a weeks 'disability awareness' training is taken above the word of numerous qualified doctors, physios, and so on. The hundreds and hundreds of people who have actually died within days/weeks of being told they are fit for work...its ignored. The stories in the press that come out about people who have the mental age of children being told they should be working and benefits removed, are written off as 'one time errors' and such, when they aren't, this is what ATOS is PAID to do. To get people off disability, regardless of if they actually need it or not.

So yeah, I may be hard pushed to find someone who would openly admit to thinking the disabled should starve and so on. However, people who support the WCA in its current form and support the government with things such as cuts to disability allowance, bedroom tax in its current form* (disproportionately affects disabled people who have no option to move as their homes are adapted)...do think this, though they would never say it out loud as they would be outed as the horrible bastards that they are.


*Not in general. Its obviously different if there are places for people to move to, which many think that there are. it IS shocking to penalize people for something they cannot change.