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Old 29-09-2017, 04:42 PM #26
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Try YouTube. I think you will find a lot more than one.
what search youtube for hastily made grenfell signs?
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The Coliseum in Rome, one of the words biggest tourist attractions, Pompei, the pyramids in egypt. Death sites are the most popular tourist attractions. People flocked to Lockerbie as I recall too. Can't say it floats my boat, but people do seem to be inherently morbid
The difference being that anyone affected by the Coliseum etc are long dead. People making money from a tragedy that only happened a few months ago is gross.

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most of the young people on tibb love watching people die gruesome deaths in films and all will dress up as death and destruction come halloween
There's a difference between fiction and reality, I'll assume I don't need to explain that difference.
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The difference being that anyone affected by the Coliseum etc are long dead. People making money from a tragedy that only happened a few months ago is gross.



There's a difference between fiction and reality, I'll assume I don't need to explain that difference.
Every media agency in the UK made big money from Grenfell including freelance reporters and camera men and women and photographers

It was quite the bonaza
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Every media agency in the UK made big money from Grenfell including freelance reporters and camera men and women and photographers

It was quite the bonaza
But the coverage served a point, there is power in the media.

There is nothing to be gained from turning it into a tourist trap so that vile opportunistic bastards can make some coins from it for the benefit of no one but themselves.
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I have more of a problem with a bus driving people there than I do with people taking a photo of it in general.
Tens of thousands or more probably have a photo of that building in their camera roll right now. I bet a handful of locals took a photo of it today alone... if these tourists are a problem, then they're one of many, and certainly not the biggest one.
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Why?
Was going past it in a van.
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Was going past it in a van.
I mean why would you want to post it on here?
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I don't see why people would want a picture but random people take random pictures every single day.

However, a company making money out of driving people there purposely to take pictures of a burned out building is bloody weird at best and vile at worst.

And I can't believe people are comparing it to the pyramids of Egypt or the Colosseum etc.
Those are steeped in human history and those personally affected are no longer with us so they become museums, with a point to them (yes, including profit making for various organisations) but also educate brand new generations of people.

Here, they're just taking pictures of a burned out building where people's loved ones died only a matter of weeks ago.

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OMG good idea, i was looking for something to do sunday afternoon. my insta will be buzzing
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I mean why would you want to post it on here?
Its a good pic, taken on a clear day from a moving van. Its in perfect focus and really brings out the sheer horror of it all. People shouldnt just forget this happened, pictures are a good way of remembering things.

Anyway, i dont think there is an option to post pics direct from my phone on here.
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Reminds me of how many people gathered around the area and building just to take pictures for their Insta and Snapchat, while others were pushing trollies of stuff to donate and were way too busy to even check their phones.
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But in all seriousness, it's honestly sick (in a bad way) that they're using Grenfell as a tourist attraction when it brought so much heartache to the people living there </3

(Also I cant help but notice that the title should be written 'Chinese tourists are driven, not Chinese tourists is driven :/ )
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Its a good pic, taken on a clear day from a moving van. Its in perfect focus and really brings out the sheer horror of it all. People shouldnt just forget this happened, pictures are a good way of remembering things.

Anyway, i dont think there is an option to post pics direct from my phone on here.
And you took a picture purely for the purpose of remembering what happened and why?
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And you took a picture purely for the purpose of remembering what happened and why?

I took the picture to show my mum when i went up to visit her in scotland as she had been going on about it for ages...this was about a month after it happened..i was on the a40 or something.

I was only suggesting posting it on here so people would remember the horror of it all, not for my own goulish pleasure.

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If it was to pay respects or for people intersted in history, like the memorials of 9/11, the collaseum, etc it would be different but going there to take fun selfies and treat it like a playground is wrong and it’s definitely too soon for this stuff...
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That being said, many tourists are foolish
When I went to the Berlin holocaust memorial there was people jumping from block to block as if it was a damn parkour attraction
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Its nothing new, its not against the law, film footage will be around forever regardless of the families feelings.

Does it bother me?, No
Will tibbs opinion of me bother me?, No
Will innocent people needlessly die?,Yes
Will the human race ever change?,No
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I personally found it far more offensive when the likes of Sky news were rifling through the personal belongings of people that had been shot down in the passenger jet in the Ukraine. That is sick.

If the tourists don't act respectfully around the scene of a disaster, then they will get what's coming to them. Londoners are not likely to stand idly by and let it continue.
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People are always going to be interested in seeing things like this. Whether it's 'right' or 'wrong' doesn't really matter, humans are still humans.

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But the coverage served a point, there is power in the media.

There is nothing to be gained from turning it into a tourist trap so that vile opportunistic bastards can make some coins from it for the benefit of no one but themselves.
This was my point entirely, it is exploiting the very avoidable tragedy. Yet again the 'enterprising' operators are exonerated as it was for the reason they all died in the first place! Filthy lucre.
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People are always going to be interested in seeing things like this. Whether it's 'right' or 'wrong' doesn't really matter, humans are still humans.
Really? Coach trips to visit burned out buildings?

I can well imagine people who happen to pass such a site being interested but actually paying and intentionally going out of your way to travel there for the purposes of a burned out building is a bit weird for me.
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I really don't see anything wrong with taking pictures tbh but I can see how the tour guide making money off this is wrong.
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Really? Coach trips to visit burned out buildings?

I can well imagine people who happen to pass such a site being interested but actually paying and intentionally going out of your way to travel there for the purposes of a burned out building is a bit weird for me.
people pay good money to go on ghost tours when they know that ghosts are fictional and they wont see of hear one

now that is weird
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people pay good money to go on ghost tours when they know that ghosts are fictional and they wont see of hear one

now that is weird
And I need to get milk on my way home but that's not relevant to what I said either.
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Really? Coach trips to visit burned out buildings?

I can well imagine people who happen to pass such a site being interested but actually paying and intentionally going out of your way to travel there for the purposes of a burned out building is a bit weird for me.
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