[user104658]

Originally Posted by Withano

Sure. Next time it happens, I will do. Like just a heads up, I'd probably still feel like humans are monogamous by society norms, and not by evolutionary needs.

I don't think love has caused monogamy at all, but it is difficult to argue against, I'll give it that much.

All I can really say Withano... is that you need to look at the bigger picture and realize than humans are not anything by evolutionary need any more. As a species we have socially transcended that phase, as evolution is based entirely on adaptation to suit environment (smartest, strongest or most versatile prevailing depending on environmental need) and human beings no longer need to be any of those things to procreate. Evolution is, at this point, irrelevant to humanity.

THAT presents a whole set of other problems (horrendous overpopulation, no equilibrium with habitat, eventually the inevitable exhaustion of the planet) but we're going way off track there...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All I can really say Withano... is that you need to look at the bigger picture and realize than humans are not anything by evolutionary need any more. As a species we have socially transcended that phase, as evolution is based entirely on adaptation to suit environment (smartest, strongest or most versatile prevailing depending on environmental need) and human beings no longer need to be any of those things to procreate. Evolution is, at this point, irrelevant to humanity.

THAT presents a whole set of other problems (horrendous overpopulation, no equilibrium with habitat, eventually the inevitable exhaustion of the planet) but we're going way off track there...

That deserves its own thread. Overpopulation is the future-calamity that needs more of a platform.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

That deserves its own thread. Overpopulation is the future-calamity that needs more of a platform.

It's too late Livia! It's been over since the early 1800's (1 billion humans, about what the planet can realistically handle indefinitely). Damn you, industrial revolution .

We need a good plague

I remember watching "Rec 2" (which was pretty rubbish, tbf) and at some point it transpires that the virus has been deliberately manufactured and released by a group who want to cull the human population right down to the millions...

... which is supposed to be all nefarious and stuff, but I was watching it like " Is it bad that I sort of think they're not wrong?"

Then again, I sympathise with the philosophical standpoint of the villians in an alarming number of movies and TV shows .

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's too late Livia! It's been over since the early 1800's (1 billion humans, about what the planet can realistically handle indefinitely). Damn you, industrial revolution .

We need a good plague

The end of the cold war will probably get the numbers down to like tens? hundreds of thousands?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Withano

The end of the cold war will probably get the numbers down to like tens? hundreds of thousands?

Yeah but if we end up nuking the place, that's more an end-game scenario than a fix. Like... we just flat out broke it.

Though I guess things would probably be OK in a couple of million years and some other civilization could evolve and there would still be some stuff left for them to use, which is preferable to us leaving the place a lifeless husk like nibbling locusts.

Then again, they'd probably just end up doing the same thing.

"Hey Schlelgrarb! Look at this! I have discovered an ancient civilization that bombed each other to dust using these super powerful weapons... AND there's blueprints for how to make them!"

"Awesome! We hate the Shploobers from Schblobereen, they'll never mess with us once they know we have these!"

"Oh no they have them too now..."

*another million years later*

"Hey Krekgrrarl! Look at this!!"