[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I totally get what you are saying Vicky. The sports thing is ridiculous. I doubt a male rugby team would want a female to male transgender on their team and if I was running a female rugby team, I would see the benefits of having a male to female transgender on my team!!

Trying to get a clear divide between transvestites and transgenders is a tricky one. In my view, a transgender is nothing like a transvestite or crossdresser. They may as well be a different species. I am all for protecting women but I'll add to that, I see transgender females as real women (I don't believe having ovaries and a womb is necessary to be a woman).

Transvestism has always had its place in society but it seems to be getting out of hand. I'm all for letting these 'ladies' have their fun but there's a line they shouldn't cross. They are clearly using transgenderism as an excuse to run amock and its going to be very difficult to stop them. The people this will affect the most is genuine transgender people.

See, I don't necessarily think it is. The current system of needing a diagnosis of sex dysphoria to legally change sex is surely fair and separates the chancers from the genuine? I don't understand why anyone thinks it would help anyone (besides a few pervs) to just be able to declare yourself the opposite sex and 'be' that tbh. But this is exactly whats being proposed.

Also apparently having the view that sex dysphoria is an essential part of being 'trans' (else..what are you 'transitioning' to?)...and that crossdressers and the likes are not the same as transgender people... makes you a terf too High five

Trans people who believe that dysphoria is clearly needed to be trans, are known as truscum and denounced by the transactivists too. Its all a little mental right now and so many don't even know its happening. As anyone who tries to explain this, is labelled transphobic. or threatened into silence. The amount of rape and death threats I had when talking about this stuff on other sites was ****ing ridiculous.

Yes, this behavior does negatively affect 'normal transsexual people'. As they tend to just want to live their own lives quietly, and they have these nutjobs shouting on about how male and female are exactly the same and how wearing a dress makes you actually a female and all that rubbish. If the law is changed, it will mainly negatively affect women and children. Then transsexuals. 'Cis' men are unlikely to be affected as on average, females are not a danger to males and oddly enough, you don't get many transmen who feel the need to force their way into male areas of life. And the entitled men who are fighting for this? get what they want and do not actually care about the people they claim to be fighting for.

Lesbians are already getting it left right and centre. Being told they are transphobic for being attracted to female people, rather than people with 'ladybrains' and penises