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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You do realize that you are doing what I did? you are using your experience to suggest you know how gay men feel.

There is nothing patronizing about suggesting someone is fun to be around. Our middle son is gay and he doesn't find it patronizing knowing he makes us laugh and that we find his company fun. If that's shallow, so be it, I can live with that.

No, I'm using my experience of specific people to point out for a fact that your generalisations of a group of people are clearly not true for all members of that group. It's great that your son, as an individual, doesn't find it patronising. It means absolutely nothing about how anyone else would feel about it. And it's great that you find his company fun. I wonder... Would you find his company tedious if he was straight? Or could it - perhaps - be that your enjoyment of him as an individual personality has absolutely piss all to do with his sexuality?